Finding general solution for ODE.

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The discussion revolves around finding the general solution for a first-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) given by dy/dx = (y+3)(y-5). Participants are tasked with providing the general solution, discussing the values of x for which the solution is defined, and solving an initial value problem where y(0) = 3.

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  • Participants discuss separating variables and integrating the equation, with attempts to express the solution in terms of y. Questions arise regarding how to rearrange the integrated equation and the implications of finding the general solution before determining the domain of the solution.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of the integration process and the steps needed to isolate y. Some participants express confusion about rearranging the equation after integration, while others provide guidance on the algebraic manipulation required to express y as a function of x.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a potential typo in the variable used during discussions, indicating a need for careful attention to the terms involved in the integration process. There is also mention of using partial fractions for integration, which some participants question for correctness.

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Homework Statement



For the following differential equation:
1) Provide the general solution
2) Discuss for which values of x the solution is defined.
3) Find the solution of the initial value problem y(0) = 3

Homework Equations


dy/dx = (y+3)(y-5)

The Attempt at a Solution


1) so I separate variables and get (1/8)*(log(y-5)-log(y+3)) = x + C after integration.
Now i need to solve for x right? How would I go about doing this? Can't seem to figure out how to rearange.
2) I don't think i can do this until i find the general solution? But once its found do i just find its domain?
3) For this i just substitute the initial values in, solve for C and then place back in equation?
 
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Lengalicious said:

Homework Statement



For the following differential equation:
1) Provide the general solution
2) Discuss for which values of x the solution is defined.
3) Find the solution of the initial value problem y(0) = 3


Homework Equations


dy/dx = (y+3)(y-5)


The Attempt at a Solution


1) so I separate variables and get (1/8)*(log(x-5)-log(x+3)) = x + C after integration.
Now i need to solve for x right? How would I go about doing this? Can't seem to figure out how to rearange.
2) I don't think i can do this until i find the general solution? But once its found do i just find its domain?
3) For this i just substitute the initial values in, solve for C and then place back in equation?

How did you get ∫dy/[(y+3)(y-5)] = (1/8)[log(x-5)-log(x-3)]?

RGV
 
sorry replace the x's with y's that was a typo. And i did it by splitting into partial fractions then integrating each term simply. Was that not correct?
 
Lengalicious said:

Homework Statement



For the following differential equation:
1) Provide the general solution
2) Discuss for which values of x the solution is defined.
3) Find the solution of the initial value problem y(0) = 3


Homework Equations


dy/dx = (y+3)(y-5)


The Attempt at a Solution


1) so I separate variables and get (1/8)*(log(y-5)-log(y+3)) = x + C after integration.
Now i need to solve for x right? How would I go about doing this? Can't seem to figure out how to rearange.
2) I don't think i can do this until i find the general solution? But once its found do i just find its domain?
3) For this i just substitute the initial values in, solve for C and then place back in equation?

You don't need to solve for x; it is already done---just read your own equation! Now, if you wanted to solve for y as a function of x, that would involve a bit more effort, but is still just elementary algebra: use standard properties of log to do it.

RGV
 

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