Finding General Solution vs Solving Differential Equations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the distinction between finding a general solution and solving a differential equation, particularly for first-order differential equations without initial values. Participants explore the definitions and implications of general and particular solutions in the context of differential equations.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that solving a differential equation without initial values involves separating variables, integrating, and including a constant of integration, leading to a response in terms of the dependent variable.
  • Others argue that the term "general solution" may imply a specific approach, particularly for linear differential equations, where recognizing the general form is necessary.
  • One participant suggests that the general solution refers to the solution obtained without initial values, while a particular solution is derived after applying initial conditions.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the general solution encompasses a family of functions that satisfy the differential equation, while the particular solution meets both the differential equation and initial/boundary conditions.
  • There is a suggestion that the difference between finding a general solution and solving a differential equation may not be significant, as both processes can yield similar results in certain contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of general versus particular solutions. No consensus is reached regarding the distinction between finding a general solution and solving a differential equation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference specific forms of differential equations, such as linear equations, and the need to recognize these forms when discussing general solutions. There is also mention of the importance of initial conditions in determining particular solutions, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these factors.

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If you are asked to solve a differential equation (single order) that has no initial values, then you separate if possible, integrate and include the Constant of integration, leaving the response in terms of the dependent variable, right?

So if you are given a single order differential equation, and asked to find the general solution, what do you do differently?

eg: $$ \frac {dy}{dx} - y = e^{3x} $$
 
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ifeg said:
If you are asked to solve a differential equation (single order) that has no initial values, then you separate if possible, integrate and include the Constant of integration, leaving the response in terms of the dependent variable, right?

So if you are given a single order differential equation, and asked to find the general solution, what do you do differently?

eg: $$ \frac {dy}{dx} - y = e^{3x} $$

Nothing.

CB
 
It depends on what you mean by general solution.
$\frac {dy}{dx} - y = e^{3x}$
In this case you have a linear differential equation.
If you wanted the general solution for a linear differential equation then you need to recognize the general form $\frac {dy}{dx} + P(x)y=Q(x)$ , and work with that.
If you are asking about a particular diff. eq then the general solution is nothing more than what you have described.
 
No, i don't think there's anything about a particular diff equation. i came across a question that asked just to find the general solution, but it had come after some other questions that asked to solve some diff equations, so i was wondering what, if any, was the difference between the two. I did some research and did see info about what you had suggested, with the P(x) y = Q(x) so i was wondering if that applied. Thanks for your assistance.
conscipost said:
It depends on what you mean by general solution.
$\frac {dy}{dx} - y = e^{3x}$
In this case you have a linear differential equation.
If you wanted the general solution for a linear differential equation then you need to recognize the general form $\frac {dy}{dx} + P(x)y=Q(x)$ , and work with that.
If you are asking about a particular diff. eq then the general solution is nothing more than what you have described.
 
I think that general solution should reefer to the one you got without the initial values, and the a singular solution would be the one that you obtain after replacing the initial values.
 
The general solution is the FAMILY of functions that satisfies the Differential Equation (i.e. has the arbitrary constants).

The particular solution is the single solution of the Differential Equation that satisfies BOTH the DE AND the initial/boundary conditions.
 
ifeg said:
If you are asked to solve a differential equation (single order) that has no initial values, then you separate if possible, integrate and include the Constant of integration, leaving the response in terms of the dependent variable, right?

So if you are given a single order differential equation, and asked to find the general solution, what do you do differently?

eg: $$ \frac {dy}{dx} - y = e^{3x} $$
Hi! When you are given conditions in the problem, for example y(0)=1 and y'(0)=0, you substitute this to the general solution which refers to the solution you have obtained from seperating and differentiating and you will obtain your partial solution :)
 

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