Finding inverse of non-linear transformation

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The discussion focuses on finding the inverse of a nonlinear transformation from R^2 to R^2 defined by the equations u=3y and v=3x^7-6y. The initial steps involve expressing y in terms of u and substituting it into the second equation to solve for x. After some calculations, it is shown that the inverse transformation can be expressed as x=((v+2u)/3)^(1/7) and y=u/3. The participants clarify that applying the inverse transformation correctly returns the original values of x and y, demonstrating the concept of an inverse function. Understanding the relationship between the original transformation and its inverse is essential for grasping the problem.
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Find the inverse of the (nonlinear) transformation from R^2 to R^2 given by

u=3y
v=3x^7-6y

x=?
y=?




The Attempt at a Solution



- I'm really not sure what to do on this problem. We haven't seen any problems even similar to it in class, so I'm looking for help on it.
 
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snoggerT said:
Find the inverse of the (nonlinear) transformation from R^2 to R^2 given by

u=3y
v=3x^7-6y

So y= u/3. Put that into the second equation: v= 3x^7- 6(u/3)= 3x^7- 2u.
Solve that for x.

x=?
y=?

The Attempt at a Solution



- I'm really not sure what to do on this problem. We haven't seen any problems even similar to it in class, so I'm looking for help on it.
 
well, that was much easier than I thought it would be. Can you explain to me why that is the inverse?
 
What do you think an inverse is? You had u= 3y, v= 3x^7- 6y and you said the answer must be in the form x=, y= . I reduce the two equation to that form, solving for x and y.

Perhaps more specifically, if you start with (x, y) and apply the original tranform, you get (3y, 3x^7 - 6y). Now what happens if you apply the tranformation x= ((v+2u)/3)^(1/7, y= u/3? Since u= 3y, the second gives y= (3y)/3= y immediately. Since u= 3y and v= 3x^7- 6y, the x= ((3x^7- 6y+ 2(3y))/3)^(1/7)= ((3x^7/3)^(1/7)= (x^7)^(1/7)= x.
That's what an inverse is supposed to do.
 
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