Finding Magnetic Field in Paramagnetic Aluminum Rod of 35 cm, 10A

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The discussion revolves around finding the magnetic field inside a paramagnetic aluminum rod with a specified diameter and current. Participants are exploring the implications of the rod's paramagnetic nature on the calculations involved.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Ampère's law and the need to consider the rod's magnetization. There are questions about the interpretation of the rod's dimensions and the correct use of current density in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using Ampère's law for the H-field and have clarified the relationship between current density and total current. There is ongoing exploration of how to calculate bound current density and the curl of magnetization.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the rod is infinitely long and are discussing the implications of this assumption on the application of relevant laws. There is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of parameters such as current density and magnetization.

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Homework Statement


i have a rod of 35 cm and a current of 10 A. the rod is a paramagnetic aluminum rod. how do i find the magnetic field inside the rod?


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the fact that the rod is paramagnetic changes anything?


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tomfrank said:
the fact that the rod is paramagnetic changes anything?

Yes. You now have a magnetization inside the rod that prohibits use of the biot-savart law there.

Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "35 cm" - are you referring to the length? If so, you should be very careful in applying ampéres law as you do not have a perfect cylindrical symmetry.

Please clarify
 
sorry it is the diameter. and the rod is consider to to infinitely long.

so what should I use?
 
Okay - that eases thing up a bit :)

Use Ampéres law for the H-field:

\oint_{\partial \mathcal{S}}\vec H \cdot d\vec \ell = \int_{\mathcal{S}}\vec J_\mathrm{free}\cdot d\vec a

For points outside the wire, this of course reduces to the familiar form:

\oint_{\partial \mathcal{S}}\vec H \cdot d\vec \ell = I_\mathrm{free,encl}

but for points inside the wire, you must be careful to only include the part of the current that is enclosed by the loop - assume that the current density is uniform, if not stated otherwise.

THen you should find:

H\cdot2\pi r = J_0 \pi r^2 \quad\Rightarrow\quad H=\frac{J_0 r}{2} for r < 17.5 cm

Where J0 is the totalt current divided by the crossectional area of the wire

(take a moment to verify this)

Now use

\vec B = \mu_0(\vec M + \vec H)

together with

\vec M = \chi \vec H

to find the required result
 
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so once i find the H which is the magnetic field i just plugged in the
<br /> \vec B = \mu_0(\vec M + \vec H)<br />
along with
<br /> \vec M = \chi \vec H<br />

so is <br /> J_0 <br />
the current they gave me?
 
tomfrank said:
so is <br /> J_0 <br />
the current they gave me?

As I stated, it is the current density which is the total current divided by the cross-sectional area of the wire. THat is:

<br /> J_0=\frac{10\,\mathrm{A}}{\pi(0.35 \,\mathrm{m})^2}<br />
 
how will I find the bound current density Jb and Kb.Jb= curl M

Kb= cross product of M and n.

is this right and how do I do the curl?
 
tomfrank said:
how will I find the bound current density Jb and Kb.


Jb= curl M

Kb= cross product of M and n.

is this right and how do I do the curl?

It's right - so just plug-in the magnetization you got from \vec M = \chi \vec H
 

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