Finding Magnitude and Direction of Force on a Charge

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnitude and direction of the electrostatic force on a charge located at the origin, given a configuration of three charges. The context involves applying Coulomb's Law and analyzing force vectors.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss drawing force diagrams and breaking vectors into components. There are questions about the correctness of the setup and calculations, particularly regarding the presence of a y-component in the resultant force.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on evaluating trigonometric functions and simplifying equations. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of using trigonometric functions versus computing forces separately, with differing views on the necessity of incorporating these functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are questioning the setup of the problem and the values used in calculations. There is also a discussion about the nature of the forces between the charges, including whether they are attractive or repulsive.

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Homework Statement


Three charges are arranged as shown in the picture I attached. Find the magnitude and direction of the electrostatic force on the charge at the origin.

Homework Equations


I know that Coulomb's Law must be applied.

The Attempt at a Solution


I've drawn a force diagram with FCB pointing to the left and FAB pointing down. I've also broke the vectors into components using Coulomb's Law and added them together. By doing this, I got 2.7 x 10-5 \hat{x} + 0 \hat{y}. From here what do I do to get an answer?

I know the answer is supposed to be 1.38 x 10-5 at 77.5 degrees so I need help with how to get there.
 

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cheerspens said:
I've drawn a force diagram with FCB pointing to the left and FAB pointing down. I've also broke the vectors into components using Coulomb's Law and added them together. By doing this, I got 2.7 x 10-5 \hat{x} + 0 \hat{y}.
You must have made a mistake, since the resultant must have a component in the y direction. Show how you computed FCB and FAB.
 
FCB=[(9x109|(6x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.32)][cos 180]\widehat{x} + [(9x109|(6x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.32)][sin 180]\widehat{y}

FAB=[(9x109|(-3x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.12)][cos 270]\widehat{x} +[(9x109|(-3x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.12)][sin 270]\widehat{y}
 
cheerspens said:
FCB=[(9x109|(6x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.32)][cos 180]\widehat{x} + [(9x109|(6x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.32)][sin 180]\widehat{y}

FAB=[(9x109|(-3x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.12)][cos 270]\widehat{x} +[(9x109|(-3x10-9)(5x10-9)|) / (.12)][sin 270]\widehat{y}
OK, now simplify these results by evaluating those trig functions.
 
I did and that's how I got 2.7x10-9\hat{x} + 0\hat{y}
Was my set up right and I went wrong somewhere in the math? I was always thinking I set it up wrong or wasn't using the right values.
 
Give me your values for sin(180), cos(180), sin(270), and cos(270).
 
sin(180) = 0
cos(180) = -1
sin(270) = -1
cos(270)=0
 
cheerspens said:
sin(180) = 0
cos(180) = -1
sin(270) = -1
cos(270)=0
Good. Now simplify your equations in post #3 accordingly.
 
What's the point of incorporating Trig functions? If you compute them individually then you get two separate forces, one along the y-axis and one along the x axis. Remember also that the force between charges A and B is repulsive, so the force you drew downwards is meant to be upwards.
 
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Lobezno said:
What's the point of incorporating Trig functions? If you compute them individually then you get two separate forces, one along the y-axis and one along the x axis.
While you don't need to use trig functions, there's nothing wrong with using them.
Remember also that the force between charges A and B is repulsive, so the force you drew downwards is meant to be upwards.
Charges A and B are oppositely charged, thus the force is attractive.
 
  • #11
C and B, sorry. They'll produce an opposite charge.
 

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