Finding Magnitude & Direction of Force & Torque Exerted by B on Coil

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnitude and direction of the force and torque exerted by a magnetic field on a coil of wire. The coil consists of 40 rectangular loops with a current of 0.150 A flowing through it, placed in a magnetic field defined by B = 0.055T x + 0.210T z. The force on segment bc of the coil is determined using the formula F = ILB, where the cross product of the current-carrying wire length and the magnetic field is essential for accurate calculations. The final force magnitude calculated is 0.279 N, derived from the vector components of the force.

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  • Understanding of magnetic fields and their representation (e.g., B = 0.055T x + 0.210T z)
  • Knowledge of vector mathematics, specifically cross products
  • Familiarity with the formula for force on a current-carrying wire (F = ILB)
  • Basic principles of electromagnetism related to coils and torque
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Homework Statement



A coil of wire consisting of 40 rectangular loops, with width 16 cm and height 30 cm, is placed in a constant magnetic field given by
B = 0.055Tx + 0.210T.z
The coil is hinged to a fixed thin rod along the y-axis (along segment da in the figure) and is originally located in the xy-plane. A current of 0.150 A runs through the wire.http://www.webassign.net/bauerphys1/27-p-051.gifWhat are the magnitude and the direction of force, Fbc, that B exerts on segment bc of the coil?
magnitude Fbc =
direction °
What are the magnitude and the direction of the torque, t, that B exerts on the coil?
magnitude t =

The Attempt at a Solution



i am just lost

i have the formulas but I'm not sure how to find the magnitube for B
hints pleasE?
 
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What's the formula for the force of a magnetic field on a current carrying wire of a given length?
 


F = ILB
yeah but B is in x and z direction so do i just do

0.15 A * 0.3 M * (0.055T x + 0.210T z)

and then do i square x and z then rad it? i tried that but it's not right
 


yjk91 said:
F = ILB
yeah but B is in x and z direction so do i just do

0.15 A * 0.3 M * (0.055T x + 0.210T z)

and then do i square x and z then rad it? i tried that but it's not right

It's a vector equation:
\vec{F} = I \; \vec{L} \times \vec{B}
In this case you have 40 wires of length 30cm all carrying the same current I, so multiply the result by 40.
\vec{F} = 40I \; \vec{L} \times \vec{B}
You should be able to write vectors for both L and B and perform the cross product (do it manually, it's probably easier). The result will be your force vector.
 


so

40 * .15 * 0.3 X (0.055x + 0.210z)


using the cross product i get (0.3 * .21, 0 , -.3*.055)
if i add them i get 0.0465

and 40 * .15 * .0465 = .279 N

is this right?
 


yjk91 said:
so

40 * .15 * 0.3 X (0.055x + 0.210z)


using the cross product i get (0.3 * .21, 0 , -.3*.055)
if i add them i get 0.0465

and 40 * .15 * .0465 = .279 N

is this right?

The cross product yields a vector, so you can't just add the components. You have to take the magnitude of the vector to find the magnitude of the force. First write out all three components of the force vector.
 

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