Finding Minimum A for Equilibrium in a Two Block Problem

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The discussion focuses on determining the minimum force A required for equilibrium in a two-block problem involving angles and tension. Key equations include T1 = 173.205 N and B = 493.574 N, derived from the relationship between tension and angle. The participants clarify the angles involved, specifically that β should be 60 degrees, and confirm that the equations remain valid even when the weight of block B is provided. The consensus is that the method for finding A does not change with the introduction of new variables.

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Homework Statement
Given the weight of block A, friction coefficients and an angle determine the max.weight of B for which the system will stay in balanc
Relevant Equations
fg=µ1N

T2=T1e^(µ2β)
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You have ##\beta=\alpha+90^o##. Check that.
 
So it should be -90? I don really understand how I have to determine the angle
 
goodOrBad said:
So it should be -90? I don really understand how I have to determine the angle
Did you draw a diagram of the circle with radii to the ends of where the string arcs over it?
 
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no, but it does seem like the rope arcs over a 90 degree area
 
goodOrBad said:
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no, but it does seem like the rope arcs over a 90 degree area
If the upper section of the string were horizontal it would be 90 degrees. But it isn't.
Mark the ends of string contact on that circle.
 
Okay so
cos30T1=0.3*500
T1=173.205
B=173.205*e^(0.2*300* π/180)=493.574N
 
goodOrBad said:
cos30T1=0.3*500
That looks like a big step backwards.
What is wrong with the equations you had previously, ##T_1\cos(30)=\mu_1N=\mu_1(500+T_1\sin(30))##?
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e^(0.2*300* π/180)
300? Where did that come from? Or did you mean 30o?
No, not 30o either.
Did you draw the diagram I described?
 
then beta should be 60 right?
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Great then this should be correct
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Thank you now I have one more question, what if almost everything was the same but... I was given weight of B and needed to find A, would I be able to use T2=T1e^(µ2β)
 
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goodOrBad said:
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Thank you now I have one more question, what if almost everything was the same but... I was given weight of B and needed to find A, would I be able to use T2=T1e^(µ2β)
To find the minimum A for equilibrium? Sure - why should the equations change?
 
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