Finding Polar Coordinates for Vector B⃗ = -2.0ι^ + 3.0 j^

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The problem involves converting a vector given in Cartesian coordinates, B⃗ = -2.0ι^ + 3.0 j^, into polar coordinates, specifically finding the values of r and theta.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of r and theta, with some questioning the validity of the angle derived from the arctangent function. There is a focus on the correct quadrant for the angle and the implications of the Cartesian coordinates.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of the angle and quadrant. There is a notable emphasis on plotting the Cartesian coordinates to clarify the situation, and some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of angles in different quadrants.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of confusion regarding the angle's placement in relation to the quadrants and the behavior of the arctangent function. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the correct angle measurement and the implications of the Cartesian setup.

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Homework Statement


B⃗ = -2.0ι^ + 3.0 j^.
Find the polar coordinates r and theta.

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The Attempt at a Solution


r=sqrt((-2.0)^2+(3.0^2))
r = 3.6

theta = tan^-1(3/-2) = -56 degrees

The answers seem to be wrong, can I get any guidance on this question please?
 
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Draw a picture. Where is the Cartesian point? Why doesn't your angle make any sense?
 
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brainpushups said:
Draw a picture. Where is the Cartesian point? Why doesn't your angle make any sense?

Oh it's in the second quadrant, I see how the angle wouldn't work. So would it then be +56 degrees?
 
Flinze said:
Oh it's in the second quadrant, I see how the angle wouldn't work. So would it then be +56 degrees?
Is that in the correct quadrant?
Do you know what the graph of tan looks like? If you put a horizontal line through it at a random height, what can you say about the intercepts?
 
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haruspex said:
Is that in the correct quadrant?
Do you know what the graph of tan looks like? If you put a horizontal line through it at a random height, what can you say about the intercepts?
I believe it is on the correct quadrant as -x,+y = quadrant 2. And there should only be one intercept I believe?? I'm confused
 
Flinze said:
Oh it's in the second quadrant, I see how the angle wouldn't work. So would it then be +56 degrees?
Which quadrants have positive angles?
Where is zero degrees located?
How many degrees in each quadrant?
 
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SteamKing said:
Which quadrants have positive angles?
Where is zero degrees located?
How many degrees in each quadrant?
Quadrant I, and III have positive angles I believe There are 90 degrees in each quadrant, and zero is located on the x-axis on quadrant I.
 
Flinze said:
Quadrant I, and III have positive angles I believe There are 90 degrees in each quadrant, and zero is located on the x-axis on quadrant I.
Well 2 out of 3 isn't bad, but it should be three out of three in this case.

If you start at zero degrees and go counterclockwise to 180 degrees, which quadrants have positive angles?

If you start at zero degrees and go clockwise to 180 degrees, which quadrants have negative angles?

The tricky thing about arctan on your calculator is it returns an angle θ such that -π/2 ≤ θ ≤ π/2, and the user is left with deciding in which quadrant the proper angle falls and its measure from zero degrees. That's why you should plot the original cartesian coordinates.
 
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Flinze said:
I believe it is on the correct quadrant as -x,+y = quadrant 2. And there should only be one intercept I believe?? I'm confused
Sure, but +56 degrees is not in that quadrant.
For the intercepts, what range of angles did you consider in saying there is only one intercept?
 
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SteamKing said:
Well 2 out of 3 isn't bad, but it should be three out of three in this case.

If you start at zero degrees and go counterclockwise to 180 degrees, which quadrants have positive angles?

If you start at zero degrees and go clockwise to 180 degrees, which quadrants have negative angles?

The tricky thing about arctan on your calculator is it returns an angle θ such that -π/2 ≤ θ ≤ π/2, and the user is left with deciding in which quadrant the proper angle falls and its measure from zero degrees. That's why you should plot the original cartesian coordinates.

Quadrant I would be positive for the first part, and Quadrant IV would be negative on the second question.
So then what I would do is 180-54=124?
 
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haruspex said:
Sure, but +56 degrees is not in that quadrant.
For the intercepts, what range of angles did you consider in saying there is only one intercept?
The answer -56 would be in quadrant IV and +56 would be in quadrant one then right?
 
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Flinze said:
The answer -56 would be in quadrant IV and +56 would be in quadrant one then right?
You're still guessing here. I don't know why you won't plot the original cartesian coordinates. That would answer your question directly.
 
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SteamKing said:
You're still guessing here. I don't know why you won't plot the original cartesian coordinates. That would answer your question directly.
It would be in quadrant II after I plot (-2,3). Would the angle I be measuring start from the x-axis from quadrant I though?
 
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Flinze said:
It would be in quadrant II after I plot (-2,3). Would the angle I be measuring start from the x-axis from quadrant I though?
Never mind, I figured it out, I subtracted 180 with 56 = 124 degrees. Thanks.
 

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