Finding potential at the center of metal sphere

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The discussion centers on calculating the electric potential at the center of an uncharged conducting spherical layer with inner radius R_1 and outer radius R_2, given a point charge q located at a distance r from the center. The participants explore the limitations of the method of images, concluding that it is impractical due to the need for infinitely many image charges. They derive the potential at the center as V = (1/4πε₀)(q/r + q/R₂ - q/R₁), while also addressing the implications of letting R_1 approach zero, which leads to potential infinity. The conversation highlights the uniform distribution of charge on the outer surface of the conductor, as stated in Griffiths' textbook.

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  • #61
ehild, in post # 58, I am talking about the inner spherical cavity which is not necessarily concentric with the outer spherical shell. You were replying to different question in post # 55. I just generalised that in post # 58.
 
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  • #62
I see. How do you get the potential at the outer surface then?

ehild
 
  • #63
Ok

Irrespective of the shape of the cavity inside the metallic sphere, if we place the charge ,q,
inside the cavity, then equal charge q is distributed uniformly on the outer spherical surface.
The cavity and the outside are different worlds altogether as long as we are talking about
electrostatic case. So potential on the outer surface would just be \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_o}\frac{q}{R_2}
 
  • #64
IssacNewton said:
Ok

Irrespective of the shape of the cavity inside the metallic sphere, if we place the charge ,q,
inside the cavity, then equal charge q is distributed uniformly on the outer spherical surface.
The cavity and the outside are different worlds altogether as long as we are talking about
electrostatic case. So potential on the outer surface would just be \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_o}\frac{q}{R_2}

I agree with this of course, Issac. It's early in the morning for me but that sounds right.

As for your earlier query: as long as you can wrap a spherical Gaussian surface around the cavity and fully contained in metal, your statement must be true, otherwise the E field could not be zero everywhere about the surface. So it makes no difference what the shape of the metal is - it can be quite irregularly shaped - the charges in the cavity have to be distrtibuted so as to null the net field at every point on the Gaussian shell just beyond R1, just as in the concentric case. So the image would not change from the concentric c ase.
 

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