Finding Speed and Direction of Relative Motion on a Moving Ship

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The problem involves determining the speed and direction of a child walking on a moving ship. The child walks east at 1 mile per hour while the ship moves north at 4 miles per hour. The task is to find the child's velocity relative to the water's surface.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the direction of the child's velocity relative to the north, questioning the meaning of the angle specified in the problem. There are attempts to use inverse tangent for angle calculations, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their results.

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Participants have shared their calculated angles and expressed agreement on certain values. There is ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the angle relative to north, with some guidance provided regarding expected ranges for the angle.

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There is mention of the time of day affecting the discussion, indicating a casual and collaborative atmosphere. The problem context suggests a focus on relative motion and vector addition.

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Homework Statement


A child walks due east on the deck of a ship at 1 miles per hour.
The ship is moving north at a speed of 4 miles per hour.

Find the speed and direction of the child relative to the surface of the water.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I've already found the magnitude. But now I can't find the direction.

They want:

"The angle of the direction from the north = "

What does that mean? I've solved it using the inverse tangent for both angles of the triangle and apparently neither is right. So maybe it's even simpler than I think?
 
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undrcvrbro said:

Homework Statement


A child walks due east on the deck of a ship at 1 miles per hour.
The ship is moving north at a speed of 4 miles per hour.

Find the speed and direction of the child relative to the surface of the water.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I've already found the magnitude. But now I can't find the direction.

They want:

"The angle of the direction from the north = "

What does that mean? I've solved it using the inverse tangent for both angles of the triangle and apparently neither is right. So maybe it's even simpler than I think?
What did you get for the angle relative to north? It should be somewhere between 10 and 20 degrees east of north.
 
Mark44 said:
What did you get for the angle relative to north? It should be somewhere between 10 and 20 degrees east of north.
I got 14.03624347...in radians .2449786631(exact enough for you?:-p)...does that sound about right?
 
undrcvrbro said:
I got 14.03624347...in radians .2449786631(exact enough for you?:-p)...does that sound about right?

Your first value agrees with mine. I didn't calculate it in radians.
 
Mark44 said:
Your first value agrees with mine. I didn't calculate it in radians.
Okay, cool. Thanks Mark, for all the help this morning(it's 2:30 here in Ohio). I can now begin my Materials and Energy Balances homework!
 

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