Finding Tangent and Perpendicular Vectors on a 2D Graph

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The discussion focuses on finding tangent and perpendicular vectors for the function f(x) = e^(3x) + sin(2x) + 3x + 1 at the point (0, 2). The tangent vector V is determined to be <1, 8> after calculating the derivative f'(x) = 3e^(3x) + 2cos(2x) + 3 and evaluating it at x=0. The normal vector N is found to be <-8, 1> by using the relationship between the slope of the tangent line and the standard form of the line equation. The scalar product method confirms the vectors' perpendicularity.

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Homework Statement



f (x) = e^(3x) + sin(2x) + 3x +1

(a) Find a vector V that is tangent to the graph of y = f(x) at the point ( 0, 2).
(b) Find a vector N that is perpendicular to the graph of y = f(x) at the point ( 0, 2).

2. The attempt at a solution

The first step I took is to find the derivative of the function, since the problem is asking for a tangent at a point.

I got this: f'(x) = 3e^(3x) + 2cos(2x) + 3

However, I am unsure how to continue. The graph of "y = f(x)" is kind of confusing. I am thinking of maybe somehow getting parametric equations for the tangent line, which would allow me to build a vector. But I am unsure how to do this.
 
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Hi Zdravko,

You need to use the general equation of a straight line -what is it? ehild
 
Well, the general equations would be y=mx+b
However, at this point in the class, we are only using parametrics for lines.

In other words, the only lines we have built so far (involving vectors) have been in this format:

x = a + bt
y = a + bt
etc...
 
ZdravkoBG said:
Well, the general equations would be y=mx+b
However, at this point in the class, we are only using parametrics for lines.

In other words, the only lines we have built so far (involving vectors) have been in this format:

x = a + bt
y = a + bt
etc...

It is easier to use the first equation. But for both methods, you know one point of the line: (0,2), and need the
the slope m or the tangent vector of the line: For that, evaluate f''(x) = 3e^(3x) + 2cos(2x) + 3 at x=0.

ehild
 
I think I got it.

I found the slope of the tangent line at x=0 to be 8.
After that, I constructed a vector from point (0,2) to next point on tangent line (1,10).
That vector is V = <1,8> which satisfies the first part of the problem.

For the second part, I built the equation of the line: y=8x+2

Then I saw in my notes that if put in standard form (-8x + y = 2), the "a" and "b" are the vector perpendicular to the line.

So the normal vector to V would be N = <-8,1> .

Is this correct?
 
It is correct. I just noticed that you needed the vectors instead of equations of lines, tangent or perpendicular to the curve.
You did it right: a tangent vector to f(x) is (vx,vy)=(1, f'(x)), and a normal vector is ((nx,ny)=(-f'(x), 1).
Anyway, the vectors ( a,b) and (-b, a) are perpendicular to each other. (what is the scalar product of two vectors if they are perpendicular?)

ehild
 
I forgot about that method to check. The scalar/dot product of the two perpendicular vectors should be 0. Thanks for all the help!
 
ZdravkoBG said:
I forgot about that method to check. The scalar/dot product of the two perpendicular vectors should be 0. Thanks for all the help!

You are welcome :smile:

ehild
 

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