Finding Tangent to Curve at Given Point - Limits Problem | y=x^3

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The discussion revolves around finding the tangent to the curve defined by the equation y=x^3 at the point (-2, -8). Participants are exploring the application of limits in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the limit definition of the derivative and attempt to substitute values into the limit expression. There is a focus on factoring cubic functions and the correct application of formulas for cubic expressions.

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Some participants have provided insights into the correct factoring of cubic functions and have pointed out potential errors in the original poster's approach. There is an ongoing exploration of the steps involved in reaching the limit, with no explicit consensus on the resolution yet.

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Participants note the importance of not providing complete solutions, emphasizing the need for the original poster to engage with the problem and develop their understanding further.

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Homework Statement


I have to find the tangent to the curve the given point [tex]\left(-2,-8\right)[/tex] for the equation [tex]y=x^{3}[/tex].


Homework Equations



[tex]f(x)=\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I started the normal way of substitution:

[tex]\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{f(-2+h)-f(-2)}{h}[/tex]

which goes to:

[tex]\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{(-2+h)^{3}-(-2)^{3}}{h}[/tex]

This is where I get stuck. I know that you factor cubic functions by:
[tex](a+b)(a^{2}-ab+b^{2})[/tex]

However, when I do this and multiply it out I eventually end up with:

[tex]\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{h^{3}}{h}[/tex]

My solutions manual says I should be getting:

[tex]\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{-8+12h-6h^{2}+h^{3}+8}{h}[/tex]

I don't understand how it got to this point and it doesn't say. Help me please?
 
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efekwulsemmay said:

Homework Statement


I have to find the tangent to the curve the given point [tex]\left(-2,-8\right)[/tex] for the equation [tex]y=x^{3}[/tex].

Homework Equations



[tex]f(x)=\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{f(x+h)-f(x)}{h}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I started the normal way of substitution:

[tex]\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{f(-2+h)-f(-2)}{h}[/tex]

which goes to:

[tex]\lim_{h\rightarrow0} \frac{(-2+h)^{3}-(-2)^{3}}{h}[/tex]

This is where I get stuck. I know that you factor cubic functions by:
[tex](a+b)(a^{2}-ab+b^{2})[/tex]

Well, depending on what your a, and b are, you may have used the wrong formula. There are 2 formulae to factor cubes:

1. a3 + b3 = (a + b)(a2 - ab + b2) (which is what you have written, also called, Sum of 2 Cubes Formula).
2. a3 - b3 = (a - b)(a2 + ab + b2) (and this is called Difference of 2 Cubes Formula).

Your book is correct. So, you should re-check the steps again. :( Or, if you cannot find any mistakes in your work, you can always post it here, and we'll be more than willing to help you spot out the errors.
 
always factor out cubic functions like this:
(a+b)3= a3 + 3a2b + 3ab2 +b3
for the numerator:

(-2+h)3 - (-2)3
= (-2)3 + 3(-2)2(h) + 3(-2)(h2) + h3 - (-8)
= -8+12h-6h2+h3+h
 
sara_87 said:
always factor out cubic functions like this:
(a+b)3= a3 + 3a2b + 3ab2 +b3
for the numerator:

(-2+h)3 - (-2)3
= (-2)3 + 3(-2)2(h) + 3(-2)(h2) + h3 - (-8)
= -8+12h-6h2+h3+h

Giving out complete solution is indeed against the forums' rule! You should give the OP some chances to think, and work by himself, instead of feeding him the answer like that. Feeding complete answer is definitely not our goal here. :(
 
woops, i think i gave more help than i should have :wink:
i wish someone would 'accidently' do that to one of my questions :shy:
 
VietDao29 said:
Giving out complete solution is indeed against the forums' rule! You should give the OP some chances to think, and work by himself, instead of feeding him the answer like that. Feeding complete answer is definitely not our goal here. :(

I was trying to help.
 

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