Finding temperature from equal radiant power

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The problem involves determining the temperature of a cube formed from a solid sphere with an initial temperature of 785 K, while maintaining equal emissivity and radiant power. The relationship between the volumes of the sphere and cube is crucial, as they must be equal due to the conservation of mass. The derived temperature of the cube is calculated to be 744 K using the formula Q = eσT4A, where the surface areas of both shapes are expressed in terms of their respective dimensions.

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  • Understanding of Stefan-Boltzmann Law (Q = eσT4A)
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Homework Statement



A solid sphere has a temperature of 785 K. The sphere is melted down and recast into
a cube that has the same emissivity and emits the same radiant power as the sphere.
What is the cube's temperature?

Homework Equations



Q = eσT4At

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that the radiant power and emmissivity of the two objects are the same and σ is a constant so I can say that;

Ts4As = T4cAc

Subscript s and c for sphere and cube.

I know the sphere's temperature and can express it's area as 4∏r2 and the area of the cube can be expressed as 6r2. Where r represents one side.

And now, I don't know what to do. Is there a relationship that links the volume of a sphere to the size of cube that can be made from it?
 
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Since it's the same amount of metal, wouldn't you expect the volumes of the sphere and cube to be equal?
 
Yes, that was a mistake.

What I meant to say was is there a relationship between the sphere and the cube that can be used to find surface area.

For a sphere of radius r, I'm pretty sure that only one cube can be constructed.
 
BOAS said:
What I meant to say was is there a relationship between the sphere and the cube that can be used to find surface area.

Yes, in this case there exist a relationship - their volumes are equal. Use that fact to find how rc depends on rs.

Honestly, I have no idea what the problem is.
 
So if you know the radius of the sphere (call it r), you can calculate the side of the cube (call it d so you don't get confused) that has the same volume, right? So then you can calculate As and Ac from the formulae you gave before.
 
phyzguy said:
So if you know the radius of the sphere (call it r), you can calculate the side of the cube (call it d so you don't get confused) that has the same volume, right? So then you can calculate As and Ac from the formulae you gave before.

I don't actually have any numbers for r or d, but the relationship is this;

d = 3√(4/3 πr3)

T44πr2 = T463√(4/3 πr3)2

Am I actually going about this question in a sensible way?
 
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BOAS said:
I don't actually have any numbers for r or d, but the relationship is this;

d = 3√(4/3 πr3)

Looks OK to me.

Am I actually going about this question in a sensible way?

Yes.

Now that you know how d depends on r, you should be able to find how Ac depends on As.
 
So Ac = 6d2

= 6(4/3 πr3)2/3

T44πr2 = T463√(4/3 πr3)2

T42πr2 = T43(4/3 πr3)2/3

3r6T12 = 27(4/3 πr3)2T12

8πT12 = 48T12

T = 744 K
 

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