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The discussion revolves around evaluating trigonometric functions without the use of a calculator, specifically focusing on the equations sec θ = 2, cot θ = 1, and csc θ = 2. Participants are exploring how to express these functions in terms of sine, cosine, and tangent, and are questioning the relevant trigonometric identities and their applications.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss converting the given equations into forms involving sine, cosine, and tangent. There are attempts to apply trigonometric identities, with some expressing uncertainty about which identities are applicable. Questions arise regarding how to evaluate these functions without a calculator and the correctness of certain equations used in the discussion.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem by suggesting the use of right triangles and the relationships between the trigonometric functions. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the equations presented, with various interpretations being considered. The discussion reflects a mix of confusion and clarification as participants work through the concepts.

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There are indications of ambiguity in the expressions used, and some participants express a lack of familiarity with evaluating trigonometric functions without a calculator. The discussion also touches on the need for clarity in notation and the potential for misunderstanding due to typographical errors.

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Homework Statement



These are three separate problems

sec θ = 2

cot θ =1

csc θ = 2

Homework Equations



I'm not sure which of the trigonometric identities to use here. Therefore, I'm not sure which equations are relevant.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've never learned how to evaluate these without a calculator. I don't even know where to start. I tried using the 1 + tan2θ = sec2θ. But I couldn't yield many results with this.
 
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Burjam said:

Homework Statement



These are three separate problems

sec θ = 2

cot θ =1

csc θ = 2

Homework Equations



I'm not sure which of the trigonometric identities to use here. Therefore, I'm not sure which equations are relevant.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've never learned how to evaluate these without a calculator. I don't even know where to start. I tried using the 1 + tan^2θ = csc^2θ. But I couldn't yield many results with this.

Welcome to the PF.

Start by writing them in the form of sin, cos, tan. Those functions are defined simply in terms of them...

Then draw the triangles associated with each of them...
 
Burjam said:

Homework Statement



These are three separate problems

sec θ = 2

cot θ =1

csc θ = 2

Homework Equations



I'm not sure which of the trigonometric identities to use here. Therefore, I'm not sure which equations are relevant.

The Attempt at a Solution



I've never learned how to evaluate these without a calculator. I don't even know where to start. I tried using the 1 + tan^2θ = csc^2θ. But I couldn't yield many results with this.

If secθ = 2, what is cosθ?
If cotθ = 1, what is tanθ?
If cscθ = 2, what is sinθ?

Also, the equation in boldface in your posting is incorrect.
 
Burjam said:
I tried using the 1 + tan^2θ = csc^2θ.

Chestermiller said:
Also, the equation in boldface in your posting is incorrect.
As well as ambiguous. To reduce the ambiguity of expressions with the square of a trig function, use parentheses, like this: sin^2(θ) or better yet, sin2(θ).

You can write exponents like this by clicking the Go Advanced button (which opens an advanced menu), and clicking the X2 button.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Start by writing them in the form of sin, cos, tan. Those functions are defined simply in terms of them...

Then draw the triangles associated with each of them...

The farthest I'm able to get is that

1/cos θ = 2

1/tan θ = 1

1/sin θ = 2

Chestermiller said:
If secθ = 2, what is cosθ?
If cotθ = 1, what is tanθ?
If cscθ = 2, what is sinθ?

Also, the equation in boldface in your posting is incorrect.

That was a typo. I just corrected it. I was actually using 1 + tan2 θ = sec2 θ

In any case, I've gotten to the point where I'm at:

cosθ = 2

tanθ = 1

sinθ = 2

I'm still not sure how to proceed from here without a calculator. Normally, I would just input θ = cos-1(2) in my calculator, but I can't do that here.

Mark44 said:
As well as ambiguous. To reduce the ambiguity of expressions with the square of a trig function, use parentheses, like this: sin^2(θ) or better yet, sin2(θ).

You can write exponents like this by clicking the Go Advanced button (which opens an advanced menu), and clicking the X2 button.

My apologizes. I didn't take the time to look at the advanced menu when I posted.
 
Burjam said:
The farthest I'm able to get is that

1/cos θ = 2

1/tan θ = 1

1/sin θ = 2
These are fine.
Burjam said:
That was a typo. I just corrected it. I was actually using 1 + tan2 θ = sec2 θ

In any case, I've gotten to the point where I'm at:

cos = 2

tanθ = 1

sinθ = 2
These are wrong.

From the first set of equations, if 1/cosθ = 2, then cos θ = 1/2, and similarly for the other two.

There are only a handful of angles whose cosines you are expected to know exactly (i.e., without using a calculator), but this is one of them.
Burjam said:
I'm still not sure how to proceed from here without a calculator. Normally, I would just input θ = cos-1(2) in my calculator, but I can't do that here.
My apologizes. I didn't take the time to look at the advanced menu when I posted.
 
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Mark44 said:
These are fine.
These are wrong.

From the first set of equations, if 1/cosθ = 2, then cos θ = 1/2, and similarly for the other two.

Then

cosθ = 1/2
tanθ = 1
sinθ = 1/2

Mark44 said:
There are only a handful of angles whose cosines you are expected to know exactly (i.e., without using a calculator), but this is one of them.

I still don't know exactly what it is yet. Is there a way of figuring it out or will I just have to memorize a small list of common solutions?
 
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draw 2 right right triangles: one with 45°,45° and 90°, the other with 30°,60°,90°. Observe the sin,cos,tan. You will find out what's going on quickly.
Burjam said:
Then

cosθ = 1/2
tanθ = 1
sinθ = 1/2



I still don't know exactly what it is yet. Is there a way of figuring it out or will I just have to memorize a small list of common solutions?
 
klondike said:
draw 2 right right triangles: one with 45°,45° and 90°, the other with 30°,60°,90°. Observe the sin,cos,tan. You will find out what's going on quickly.

Ohhhh I see now.

a. θ = 60º
b. θ = 45º
c. θ = 30º

Wow, it's a lot simpler than I thought it would be. I'm kicking myself right now. Anyway, thanks for the help. My textbook wasn't very clear.
 

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