Trig Identities: Simplifying Expressions with Cotangent, Secant, and Cosecant

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The discussion revolves around simplifying trigonometric expressions involving cotangent, secant, and cosecant. Participants are addressing specific problems that require the application of trigonometric identities and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Participants explore various attempts to simplify expressions, questioning the clarity of the problem statements and the correct interpretation of the expressions. Some participants suggest rewriting terms in a more manageable form, while others express confusion over the notation used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of identities and the need for a common denominator. There is a recognition of the need for clearer expression of the problems, particularly in the second question.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the notation and structure of the problems presented, particularly in the second expression. Participants are also navigating the constraints of homework rules and the need to adhere to proper mathematical conventions.

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I have re-post this forum as I should have paid closer attention to rules. I apologized for that.

Homework Statement



1) The expression tan^3 θ + sinθ/cosθ is equal to:

(a) cot θ (b) tan θ sec^2 θ (c) tan θ (d) sin θ tan θ (e) tan θ csc^2 θ 2) Simplify (cos θ/1+ sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1)^-1

(a) cos θ/2 (b) 2sec θ (c) 2sin θ (d) csc θ/2 3) The expression cot θ/csc θ-sin θ is equal to:

(a) cos θ (b) sec θ (c) tan θ (d) sin θ (e) csc

Homework Equations

:[/B]
Identifying the trigonometry identities
Tan=sin/cos
Sec=1/cos
Cot= cos/sin
Csc= 1/Sin

The Attempt at a Solution

:[/B]Here's my attempt on the first question:
Tan^3 = Sin^3/Cos^3;
Sin^3/Cos^3 + Sin/Cos=
Sin^4/Cos^4 = Tan


(c) Tan

The second question (I'm very lost on this) :

(2Cos/(1+Sin)(Sin-1))^-1=
(2Cos(Sin-1)/(1+Sin))^-1=
(-2Cos/1)^-1=
1/2cos= 2sec
(?)

(b) 2Sec

The third question:
(Cos/Sin)/ (1/Sin) -(Sin/1) =
(Cos/Sin)(Sin/1)/ (1/Sin)=
(Cos*Sin/Sin)/(1/Sin)=
Cos/(1/Sin) =
Sin/Cos = Tan
(c) Tan
 
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Cosmic-Kat said:
I have re-post this forum as I should have paid closer attention to rules. I apologized for that.

Homework Statement



1) The expression tan^3 θ + sinθ/cosθ is equal to:

(a) cot θ (b) tan θ sec^2 θ (c) tan θ (d) sin θ tan θ (e) tan θ csc^2 θ 2) Simplify (cos θ/1+ sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1)^-1

(a) cos θ/2 (b) 2sec θ (c) 2sin θ (d) csc θ/2 3) The expression cot θ/csc θ-sin θ is equal to:

(a) cos θ (b) sec θ (c) tan θ (d) sin θ (e) csc
It's not clear what the questions are.
For 1) is it ##\tan^3(\theta) + \frac{\sin(\theta)}{\cos(\theta)}## or is it ##\frac{\tan^3(\theta) + \sin(\theta)}{\cos(\theta)}##?
What you wrote is the first, although you might have meant the second. When you write fractions using inline text, you have to use parentheses around the entire numerator or denominator (or both), whenever there are two or more terms.

For 2) I can't even guess what you mean.

For 3) what you wrote is ##\frac{\cot(\theta)}{\csc(\theta)} - \sin(\theta)##. Did you mean ##\frac{\cot(\theta)}{\csc(\theta) - \sin(\theta)}##? If so, write it as cot(θ)/(csc(θ) - sin(θ)).
Cosmic-Kat said:

Homework Equations

:[/B]
Identifying the trigonometry identities
Tan=sin/cos
Sec=1/cos
Cot= cos/sin
Csc= 1/Sin

The Attempt at a Solution

:[/B]Here's my attempt on the first question:
Tan^3 = Sin^3/Cos^3;
Sin^3/Cos^3 + Sin/Cos=
Sin^4/Cos^4 = Tan


(c) Tan

The second question (I'm very lost on this) :


(2Cos/(1+Sin)(Sin-1))^-1=
(2Cos(Sin-1)/(1+Sin))^-1=
(-2Cos/1)^-1=
1/2cos= 2sec
(?)

(b) 2Sec

The third question:
(Cos/Sin)/ (1/Sin) -(Sin/1) =
(Cos/Sin)(Sin/1)/ (1/Sin)=
(Cos*Sin/Sin)/(1/Sin)=
Cos/(1/Sin) =
Sin/Cos = Tan
(c) Tan
 
Cosmic-Kat said:
I have re-post this forum as I should have paid closer attention to rules. I apologized for that.

Homework Statement



1) The expression tan^3 θ + sinθ/cosθ is equal to:

(a) cot θ (b) tan θ sec^2 θ (c) tan θ (d) sin θ tan θ (e) tan θ csc^2 θ

2) Simplify (cos θ/1+ sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1)^-1

(a) cos θ/2 (b) 2sec θ (c) 2sin θ (d) csc θ/2

3) The expression cot θ/csc θ-sin θ is equal to:

(a) cos θ (b) sec θ (c) tan θ (d) sin θ (e) csc


Homework Equations

:[/B]
Identifying the trigonometry identities
Tan=sin/cos
Sec=1/cos
Cot= cos/sin
Csc= 1/Sin

The Attempt at a Solution

:

Here's my attempt on the first question:
Tan^3 = Sin^3/Cos^3;
Sin^3/Cos^3 + Sin/Cos=
Sin^4/Cos^4 = Tan


(c) Tan
[/B]
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Hello Cosmic-Kat. Welcome to PF!

You have committed two huge algebra/trig errors.

Review how to add rational expressions (fractions).

Sin4(θ)/Cos4(θ) = (Sin(θ)/Cos(θ))4 ≠ Tan(θ)
 
Cosmic-Kat said:
Here's my attempt on the first question:
Tan^3 = Sin^3/Cos^3;
Sin^3/Cos^3 + Sin/Cos=
Sin^4/Cos^4 = Tan

(c) Tan
This is the problem that Sammy said had two errors. For this problem it's better to write things in terms of ##\tan(\theta)##.
 
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Mark44 said:
This is the problem that Sammy said had two errors. For this problem it's better to write things in terms of ##\tan(\theta)##.
I am sorry about the confusion.
I should have double check my writing.
1) The expression (tan^3 θ) + (sinθ/cosθ) is equal to2) Simplify ((cos θ/1)+ (sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1))^-1
3) The expression (cot θ)/(csc θ-sin θ) is equal to;


Is that clear?
 
Cosmic-Kat said:
I am sorry about the confusion.
I should have double check my writing.
1) The expression (tan^3 θ) + (sinθ/cosθ) is equal to2) Simplify ((cos θ/1)+ (sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1))^-1
3) The expression (cot θ)/(csc θ-sin θ) is equal to;


Is that clear?
1 and 3 are clear.
Part of 2 is unclear: (sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1)
What you wrote is ##sin(\theta) - \frac{cos(\theta)}{sin(\theta)} - 1##
 
Cosmic-Kat said:
I am sorry about the confusion.
I should have double check my writing.
1) The expression (tan^3 θ) + (sinθ/cosθ) is equal to

2) Simplify ((cos θ/1)+ (sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1))^-1

3) The expression (cot θ)/(csc θ-sin θ) is equal to;

Is that clear?
#1 and #3 are Clear enough.

Now, for #1.
 
Mark44 said:
1 and 3 are clear.
Part of 2 is unclear: (sin θ - cosθ/sinθ-1)
What you wrote is ##sin(\theta) - \frac{cos(\theta)}{sin(\theta)} - 1##
Sorry again. I am terrible at writing!

((cos θ/(1+sin θ )- (cosθ/(sinθ-1))))^-1

is this clear
 
SammyS said:
#1 and #3 are Clear enough.

Now, for #1.
That's good to hear that #1 and #3 is better. I am not a good writer...
And about #1?
 
  • #10
Cosmic-Kat said:
That's good to hear that #1 and #3 is better. I am not a good writer...
And about #1?
Yes, What did Mark suggest for #1 ?
 
  • #11
Regarding #1, don't do little bits and pieces of it. Start with the given expression and work with it to get it in simplest form.
(Note: I used x rather than ##\theta##, as x is easier to write.
Don't do this: tan^3(x) = sin^3(x)/cos^3(x);
Do this: ##\frac{sin^3(x)}{cos^3(x)} + \frac{sin(x)}{cos(x)}= tan^3(x) + ??##
This is not equal to ##tan^4(x)##.
 
  • #12
Mark44 said:
Regarding #1, don't do little bits and pieces of it. Start with the given expression and work with it to get it in simplest form.
(Note: I used x rather than ##\theta##, as x is easier to write.
Don't do this: tan^3(x) = sin^3(x)/cos^3(x);
Do this: ##\frac{sin^3(x)}{cos^3(x)} + \frac{sin(x)}{cos(x)}= tan^3(x) + ??##
This is not equal to ##tan^4(x)##.
I see. Do I multiply both numerators and denominators with the least common denominators?
 
  • #13
Cosmic-Kat said:
I see. Do I multiply both numerators and denominators with the least common denominators?
Yes, if you insist on using this in "fraction" form, you will need a common denominator.

But Mark suggested writing sin(x)/cos(x) in terms of tan(x) .

In either case, you will eventually need to use an identity not included in the list you have under Relevant Equations ; one of the Pythagorean Identities.
 
  • #14
I always found this stuff hard to recall off the top of my head as well and just found it much easier to just use Euler's formulas and just start factoring out exp(i*theta) whenever possible and simplifying. For two I would just get it into some form of one function divided by another like
A(theta)/B(theta)
then use Euler's formulas if you don't recall all the trig formulas that I can seem to remember and you should get an answer
 
  • #15
YoshiMoshi said:
exp(i*theta)
It's very likely that the OP hasn't seen Euler's fomula yet. From the problems posted, he or she is just barely getting started with trig.
 
  • #16
I solved it. Here are pictures:
math1.jpg
math2.jpg
math3.jpg


Also, I am physics major and I am taking trigonometry class (hopefully I'll pass).
 
  • #17
Cosmic-Kat said:
I solved it.
That all seems to work.
For the first one, a very useful formula is ##1+\tan^2=\sec^2##. So you can go ##\tan^3+\sin/\cos=\tan^3+\tan=\tan()(1+\tan^2)=\tan \sec^2##
 
  • #18
haruspex said:
That all seems to work.
For the first one, a very useful formula is ##1+\tan^2=\sec^2##. So you can go ##\tan^3+\sin/\cos=\tan^3+\tan=\tan()(1+\tan^2)=\tan \sec^2##
This is where I was heading in post #4.
 

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