Finding the Angle for Safe Max Speed on Unbanked Curve

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SUMMARY

A car can safely negotiate an unbanked curve at a maximum speed determined by the coefficient of static friction, which is 0.88 in this case. To find the angle at which the curve should be banked for the same maximum speed without relying on friction, the equation v² = gr*((sinQ + μcosQ)/(cosQ - μsinQ)) is utilized. The discussion highlights the need to first calculate the speed before determining the angle of the banked curve. The key variables involved are the normal force (N), angle (Q), and friction (f).

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of static friction and its coefficient
  • Familiarity with Newton's laws of motion
  • Knowledge of circular motion dynamics
  • Ability to manipulate trigonometric equations
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  • Calculate the maximum speed for a car on an unbanked curve using the coefficient of static friction
  • Learn how to derive the angle for a banked curve using the equation v² = gr*((sinQ + μcosQ)/(cosQ - μsinQ))
  • Explore the effects of varying coefficients of friction on maximum speed and banking angle
  • Study practical applications of banked curves in road design and vehicle dynamics
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A car can negotiate an unbanked curve safely at a certain max speed when the coefficient of static friction between the tires and the ground is 0.88. At what angle should the same curve be banked for the car to negotiate the curve safely at the same maximum speed without relying on friction?


Homework Equations



Normal force = N
angle = Q
friction = f

NycosQ = mg + fsinQ

NxsinQ + fcosQ = mvˆ2/r

The Attempt at a Solution


Both equations simiplify to:

vˆ2 = gr*((sinQ + μcosQ)/(cosQ - μsinQ))

I know I am suppose to find the speed first, which I have no idea how to find. Then, how would I find the angle?
 
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Hi aimslin22,

What is the angle for the first situation (the unbanked curve)? What is the coefficient of friction for the second situation (the banked curve)?
 
That was all the info I was given, but my teacher went over it today. Thanks though!
 

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