Finding the angle in which the resultant force points

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the direction of acceleration for a mass subjected to multiple forces, specifically focusing on the resultant angle in relation to the coordinate system defined (east as 0 degrees and counterclockwise as positive).

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the angle using trigonometric functions, particularly the tangent inverse. There is confusion regarding the quadrant in which the resultant vector lies and how to properly interpret the angles derived from the components.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively recalculating angles based on their components and questioning the correctness of their interpretations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of arctangent and the implications of quadrant placement on angle determination.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the representation of angles and their relationships, particularly in terms of how they should sum up in the context of the problem. Participants are also working under the constraints of significant figures in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


Forces of 11.8N north, 19.2N east, and 15.9N south are simultaneously applied to a 3.93kg mass as it rests on an air table. What is the magnitude of its acceleration?
What is the direction of the acceleration in degrees? (Take east to be 0 degrees and counterclockwise to be positive. Enter an angle between -180 degrees and +180 degrees.)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to find out the answer to the first part of the equation which was 5.0m/s^2 but the angle i Have no idea to get. I just used the tan inverse of my components and got 14.3 degrees but it wasnt right. I also tried -14.3 but no luck there either.

Any help would be appreciated![/B]
 
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alexi_b said:

Homework Statement


Forces of 11.8N north, 19.2N east, and 15.9N south are simultaneously applied to a 3.93kg mass as it rests on an air table. What is the magnitude of its acceleration?
What is the direction of the acceleration in degrees? (Take east to be 0 degrees and counterclockwise to be positive. Enter an angle between -180 degrees and +180 degrees.)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to find out the answer to the first part of the equation which was 5.0m/s^2 but the angle i Have no idea to get. I just used the tan inverse of my components and got 14.3 degrees but it wasnt right. I also tried -14.3 but no luck there either.

Any help would be appreciated![/B]
What are your components? If they are not in the first or the fourth quadrant, taking the inverse tan will not give the correct angle (assuming they want the angle relative to the positive x axis)
 
nrqed said:
What are your components? If they are not in the first or the fourth quadrant, taking the inverse tan will not give the correct angle (assuming they want the angle relative to the positive x axis)

Well i just redid it and I got 19.2 deg (east) and 4.1 deg (south) so it is in the fourth quadrant still. How do you propose I fix this?
 
alexi_b said:
Well i just redid it and I got 19.2 deg (east) and 4.1 deg (south) so it is in the fourth quadrant still. How do you propose I fix this?
I am not sure what you mean by "19.2 deg (east) and 4.1 deg (south)". You mean 19.2 degrees east of south?? And 4.1 degrees south of east?? But these two angles should add up to 90 degrees so I am confused. What are your components?
 
nrqed said:
I am not sure what you mean by "19.2 deg (east) and 4.1 deg (south)". You mean 19.2 degrees east of south?? And 4.1 degrees south of east?? But these two angles should add up to 90 degrees so I am confused. What are your components?
im terribly sorry, its late where I am, what i meant to say was 19.2 N (east) and 4.1 N (south)
 
alexi_b said:
im terribly sorry, its late where I am, what i meant to say was 19.2 N (east) and 4.1 N (south)
No problem! We must both be on the east coast, it is quite late here too :-)

Ok, your components are good. But recalculate the angle, it does not give -14.3 degrees. Did you use an arctan?
 
nrqed said:
No problem! We must both be on the east coast, it is quite late here too :-)

Ok, your components are good. But recalculate the angle, it does not give -14.3 degrees. Did you use an arctan?
Yeah I did recalulate and it gives me 12.05 or 12.0 because of significant digits. And i used tan^-1 to find my angles
 
alexi_b said:
Yeah I did recalulate and it gives me 12.05 or 12.0 because of significant digits. And i used tan^-1 to find my angles
Good. I get this too. So the answer should be -12.0 degrees.
 
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nrqed said:
Good. I get this too. So the answer should be -12.0 degrees.
thank you!
 

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