Finding the angle of an inclined plane

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The problem involves determining the angle of an inclined plane based on the forces acting on a car moving up and down the hill at a constant speed. The scenario includes considerations of power, friction, and gravitational forces.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up force equations based on power and velocity, questioning the results of their calculations for the angle of inclination. Some participants question the definitions and assumptions used in the equations, particularly regarding the representation of power and the terms in the equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying terms and questioning the setup of the equations. There is no explicit consensus on the approach, but some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of the equations.

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Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings related to the application of power in the context of forces and the equilibrium condition of the car's motion. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the reasonableness of their calculated angle.

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This should be an easy question, but I am having problems with my conflicting solutions. Maybe someone could help.

A 1900 kg car experiences a combined force of air resistance and friction that has the same magnitude whether the car goes up or down the hill at 27 m/s. Going up a hill, the car's engine needs to produce 47 hp more power to sustain the constant velocity than it does going down the same hill. At what angle is the hill inclined above the horizontal?

My approach:

First P=Fv ... so I sub in Force =Power/velocity
and then set up my force equations in the x direction which I set parallel to the inclined plane.

Assuming Power up = power down + 47hp(or 35060Watts)

UP: P/v - sinθmg - (friction+air resistance) = 0
DOWN: (P+47hp)/v + sinθmg - (friction+air resistance) = 0

I tried setting these two equations equal to each other and I come up with theta <1°
I tried solving for P in one and then subbing into the other and solving for Theta and I get theta = about 2°.
Still this seams unreasonably low, I wouldn't think that it would take 47hp more to go up a 2° incline
 
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Can you specify what the variable 'P' is supposed to represent? Also, are you sure that the first term in both of your expressions makes sense?
 
Yes, P stands for power
I substituted P/v in for my applied force, since power = Force*velocity
I should be allowed to make the sub.

the equations simplified: Force - weight(portion along x axis) - Friction = 0 ... (constant velocity tells me that the equation is in equalibrium)
 
In second equation instead of
P+47 you had to write P-47

enjoy
 

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