Finding the Angle of Rainfall for a Driving Car

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The problem involves determining the angle at which rain appears to fall relative to a driver in a moving car. The scenario includes vertical rainfall and the car's horizontal speed, requiring an understanding of relative velocity in a physics context.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the use of trigonometric functions and the definition of velocity directions. Questions arise about the reasoning behind specific equations and the interpretation of negative values in the context of direction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made regarding velocity directions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of magnitudes and the treatment of angles in trigonometric functions.

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Participants note potential confusion stemming from the assignment of positive and negative values to velocities, as well as the need to clarify the relationship between the angles involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement



Rain is falling vertically at a constant speed of 8 m/s. At what angle (in degrees) from the vertical will the rain appear to be falling as viewed by a driver traveling on a straight, level road with a speed of 50 km/h?


Homework Equations



vr,c = vr,g + vc,g



The Attempt at a Solution



I set vr,g = -8, and vc,g = 13.88 m/s after conversion. I came up with a 13.88 sinθ - 8 = 0. θ = 35.19. 35.19+90 = 125.19. 180 - 125.19 = 54.8 degrees off of vertical. Not even close.
 
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burton95 said:
13.88 sinθ - 8 = 0
By what reasoning do you arrive at that?
 
My book had a similar problem. The reasoning was to get the another angle besides the 90° and then i could subtract the difference
 
From 180°
 
Essentially you have a right triangle with one leg of length and the other of length 13.8. tangent= opposite side/near side.
 
Right I get that but I have a negative number as per my definition of up being positive. I understand -1tan = 13.8/8 but I'm at a loss as to how this would work as I assigned it a value of -8...wait do I just use 8 as the magnitude and "-" is the direction so I only need the magnitude of the velcoity?
 
burton95 said:
Right I get that but I have a negative number as per my definition of up being positive. I understand -1tan = 13.8/8 but I'm at a loss as to how this would work as I assigned it a value of -8...wait do I just use 8 as the magnitude and "-" is the direction so I only need the magnitude of the velcoity?
You can do it either way - just work with magnitudes and figure out the direction separately, or understand that the tangent function goes negative in the second and fourth quadrants (tan(x) = - tan(π-x)).
 

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