Finding the Angular Velocity of a Merry-Go-Round

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The discussion revolves around calculating the angular velocity of a merry-go-round when a person moves from the center to the edge. The problem involves concepts of angular momentum and moment of inertia in a rotational dynamics context.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial conditions and the need to calculate the angular velocity at the edge of the platform. There are questions about the time taken to walk to the edge and the relationship between angular acceleration and time. Some participants suggest using conservation of angular momentum to find the final angular velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the moment of inertia and its calculation. Some guidance has been offered on how to approach the conservation of angular momentum, but there is no explicit consensus on the method to be used.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the calculation of the moment of inertia, with participants questioning the necessity of recalculating it when it is provided in the problem statement. The discussion also highlights the need to consider the person as a point mass when calculating the overall moment of inertia of the system.

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Homework Statement



A person of mass 71 kg stands at the center of a rotating merry-go-round platform of radius 3.2 m and moment of inertia 920 kg * m^2 . The platform rotates without friction with angular /velocity 1.7 rad./s. The person walks radially to the edge of the platform.

Homework Equations



ω^2 * r = α

The Attempt at a Solution



The first question I asked myself was, "How long did it take him to walk to the edge of the platform?"

I found α to be ≈ 29.59 rad./s but I'm having trouble finding an equation relating this to time. I don't know θ and don't know ω final. Is there another way I should be looking at this?
 
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PeachBanana said:

Homework Statement



A person of mass 71 kg stands at the center of a rotating merry-go-round platform of radius 3.2 m and moment of inertia 920 kg * m^2 . The platform rotates without friction with angular /velocity 1.7 rad./s. The person walks radially to the edge of the platform.

You haven't stated here what the problem is.
 
I guess that would be a slight problem! The question being asked:

Calculate the angular velocity when the person reaches the edge.
 
I think if you just compute the change in moment of inertia due to having the person on the edge rather than at the centre of rotation, then you can use conservation of angular momentum to find the answer.
 
Okay, that makes sense. I think I calculated "I" incorrectly.

I said the initial moment of inertia was 920 kg * m^2. Then I thought the final "I" value would be (I assumed this merry-go-round was a solid cylinder) 1/2 (3.2 m)^2 (71 kg) ≈ 363.5 kg * m^2.

L initial = (920 kg * m^2)(1.7 rad./s)
L initial ≈ 1564 kg * m^2/s

1564 kg * m^2/s = 363.52 m^2 * kg * ω
ω ≈ 4.30 rad./s
 
PeachBanana said:
Okay, that makes sense. I think I calculated "I" incorrectly.

I said the initial moment of inertia was 920 kg * m^2. Then I thought the final "I" value would be (I assumed this merry-go-round was a solid cylinder) 1/2 (3.2 m)^2 (71 kg) ≈ 363.5 kg * m^2.

I'm quite puzzled by what you are attempting here. The moment of inertia of the merry-go-round itself is given in the problem. It's 920 kg m2. You do not have to compute it. So why are you trying to?

Also, if the calculation you posted was supposed to be a calculation of the moment of inertia of the merry-go-round, then why did you use the mass of the person in the calculations?

What you have to do is find the change in the moment of inertia of the overall system (merry-go-round + person) given that the person moves from the centre of rotation to the edge. For this purpose, I think you can probably treat the person as a point mass.
 
Okay. I understand that much better. I was trying to calculate the change in the moment of inertia but went about it the completely wrong way.
 

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