Finding the Average Flow Velocity in a Tank with Multiple Inlets and One Outlet

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average flow velocity of water exiting a cylindrical tank with two inlets and one outlet, focusing on the application of mass flow rate principles and fluid dynamics equations. Participants explore the relationship between mass flow rates, cross-sectional areas, and velocities in the context of a homework problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states the mass flow rates into the tank are 6 kg/sec and 10 kg/sec, leading to a total inflow of 16 kg/sec, which they propose must equal the outflow to maintain a constant water level.
  • Another participant confirms that the mass flow rate out must equal the total inflow, asserting that 16 kg/sec is indeed leaving the outlet pipe.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about how to derive the velocity from the mass flow rate, seeking guidance on the relationship between flow rate, area, and velocity.
  • One participant suggests a formula involving flow rate, area, and density to calculate velocity, but later questions the resulting value, finding it unexpectedly low.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in calculating the area of the outlet pipe, suggesting that the diameter and area were mixed up, which leads to a revised calculation of velocity.
  • After correcting the area calculation, a participant arrives at a new velocity value but still expresses concern that it seems low for the size of the outlet pipe.
  • Further comments indicate that the revised velocity might be acceptable given the dimensions of the outlet pipe.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the principle that the mass flow rates in and out must balance, but there is some uncertainty regarding the calculations of area and resulting velocity. The discussion reflects differing opinions on whether the calculated velocities are reasonable.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on assumptions about the continuity of mass flow and the application of fluid dynamics equations. There are unresolved aspects regarding the accuracy of area calculations and the implications for the resulting velocity values.

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Homework Statement



Water (of density 1000 kg/m^3) flows into a cylindrical tank through two pipes at mass flow rates of 6 kg/sec and 10 kg/sec respectively, and leaves the tank via a circular outlet pipe of 20 cm diameter. If the water level in the tank is to remain constant, calculate the average flow velocity in the outlet pipe.


Homework Equations



Q1 + Q2 = Q3 ---> A1*u1 + A2*u2 = A3*u3

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm really tempted to just say, well the water coming in is 10 kg/sec and 6 kg/sec so the water exiting must be 16 kg/sec. I'm not sure you can do that though, but there are too many unknowns! You have A3, but not A1 or A2. You have u1 and u2, but not u3 (what you're solving for).

A1(6 kg/sec) + A2 (10 kg/sec) = pi*0.2m^2*u3

Can anyone steer me in the right direction?
 
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You are correct, the mass flow rate coming in equals mass flow rate going out via continuity of mass equations. Remember mass flow rate = density*area*velocity. You know the mass flow rate out, area and density. Bingo!
 
Are you saying the mass flow rate out has to be equal to 16 kg/sec?
 
Yes, if the level of the water is not going up the mass of water going in must equal the mass of water going out so 16 kg/s is leaving the outlet pipe.
 
right. So I have 16 kg/s in the outlet pipe, but how do I find the velocity from that?
 
I got an answer, but it seems rather low. I think I saw somewhere that Velocity = flowrate/area*density

so I have 16/(pi*0.04 m^2)*(1000)
The units work out to be m/s and I got 0.127 m/s That's some slow moving water! Does this work?
 
I think you have got the diameter and area of the outlet mixed up... it is 0.2m diameter so the area is π x 0.1^2
 
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I think you have got the diameter and area of the outlet mixed up... it is 0.2m diameter so the area is π x 0.1^2

Thanks. You're right. That changes the answer to 0.509 m/s
Still seems a little low though.
 
mmmmm. I think it is OK 20cm is a large pipe:biggrin:
 
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That looks like the correct answer
 
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Thanks for the help. I'll run with it.
 

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