Finding the Centroid Using Green's Theorem

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The discussion revolves around finding the centroid of a region D using Green's Theorem, with a constant density function assumed. Participants explore the relationship between the integrals involved and the application of Green's Theorem to derive the centroid coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem using Green's Theorem, with attempts to express the centroid coordinates in terms of integrals. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the integrals and the correct application of the theorem.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on the integration process and the expressions for P and Q. However, there is a lack of consensus on certain steps, particularly in the interpretation of the integrals and their implications for the centroid coordinates.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a constant density function and the assumption that k = 1 for simplification. Some participants express confusion about the derivation of the centroid coordinates and the application of Green's Theorem, indicating potential gaps in understanding.

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Can someone help me with the following? I'm supposed to find the centroid of a region D using Green's Theorem. Assume that this density function is constant.


∫Pdx + ∫Qdy = ∫∫(dQ/dx)-(dP/dy)
A = ∫xdy = -∫ydx = ½*∫xdy - ydx


I know that the mass of a region D with constant density function is ∫kdA (which is the area times some constant K). Let's make it easy and assume that k = 1 with the area A. So, the centroid of the region D would be located at (1/A*∫∫xdA) and (1/A*∫∫ydA). So, if I set Pdx as -ydx, and Qdy as xdy, I would get from Green's Theorem that ∫Pdx = -∫∫ydxdy and ∫Qdy = ∫∫xdxdy. But if you divide by A this is the expression for the coordinates of the centroid, since ∫∫xdxdy = ∫∫xdA and -∫∫ydxdy = ∫∫ydA. So you have the coordinates as 1/2A∫x^2/dy and 1/2A∫-y^2dx as the coordinates? Thanks.
 
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Yes. Setting P=0, Q=x^2/2 gives you x integrated over the surface and P=(-y)^2/2, Q=0 gives you y. So your final conclusion is correct.
 
I know this is an old thread, but I need to understand the derived centroid coordinates from Green's theorem.

I basically got lost when he said "So, if I set Pdx as -ydx, and Qdy as xdy, I would get from Green's Theorem that∫Pdx = -∫∫ydxdy and ∫Qdy = ∫∫xdxdy."

By my understanding, ∫Pdx = ∫-ydx, using Green's theorem,
∫∫(dQ/dx - dP/dy)dA = ∫∫(--1)dxdy = ∫∫dA = A?
 
I know you know it's an old thread, but parasitizing old threads is an almost sure way to get completely ignored. If Q=x^2/2 then dQ/dx is x. That's all I'm going to say until you do the right thing and post your own problems.
 

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