Finding the curve of graph intersections

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The discussion revolves around finding the vector function representing the intersection of a circular cylinder and a hyperbolic paraboloid. The initial assumption is that the intersection forms a circle with a changing z value, leading to the parameterization r(t) = <sin(t), cos(t), cos(2t)>. However, confusion arises regarding the expected coordinates at specific values of t, particularly when y=0. Clarifications indicate that the parameterization is indeed correct, but the direction of traversal around the circle differs from the user's expectation. The final consensus is that the parameterization meets the requirements of the problem, including the condition x(0) = 0.
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Homework Statement


A circular cylinder of radius 1 and the hyperbolic paraboloid, z=y2-x2, intersect. Which vector function r(t)=x(t)i+y(t)j+z(t)k has the curve of intersection as its graph if x(0)=0.


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I know that intersection is a circle with a changing z value (the question provided a graph), so my x and y values will either be cos(t), sin(t) or vice versa.

So, if you use sin(t) and cos(t) for the x and y values, you get
z=cos2 (t)-sin2(t)
and z = cos(2t)

So we have r(t)=<sin(t),cos(t),cos(2t)>

However, this would mean that when y=0, t=pi/2
So when t=pi/2, we should have point (1,0,1), but on the graph provided, the point at y=0 is clearly(positive x value,0, NEGATIVE z value)

I am confused. :/
 
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Hello Lucci. Welcome to PF. But I'm afraid there aren't any mind readers here. Since you didn't give us the equation of the cylinder nor a picture of the graph, how can we be expected to help you? Also, I very much doubt the intersection of a cylinder with a hyperbolic paraboloid is a circle. At least give us, word-for-word, the exact statement of the problem.
 
Aye.
I apologize. I'm still getting used to this thing.
This is the picture of the graph...
graph.jpg


And when I mean a circle, I sort of imagine parameterized curves as being drawn by a moving t value. This t value will go in a circle around the z axis (x2+y2 while simultaneously moving up and down as z increases/decreases.
 
In other words, the cylinder is given by x^2+ y^2= 1. If you add that to z= x^2- y^2 you get z+1= 2x^2 or z= 2x^2- 1.

Standard parametric equations for the unit circle are x= cos(\theta) and y= sin(\theta).
 
Lucci said:

Homework Statement


A circular cylinder of radius 1 and the hyperbolic paraboloid, z=y2-x2, intersect. Which vector function r(t)=x(t)i+y(t)j+z(t)k has the curve of intersection as its graph if x(0)=0.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I know that intersection is a circle with a changing z value (the question provided a graph), so my x and y values will either be cos(t), sin(t) or vice versa.

So, if you use sin(t) and cos(t) for the x and y values, you get
z=cos2 (t)-sin2(t)
and z = cos(2t)

So we have r(t)=<sin(t),cos(t),cos(2t)>

However, this would mean that when y=0, t=pi/2
So when t=pi/2, we should have point (1,0,1), but on the graph provided, the point at y=0 is clearly(positive x value,0, NEGATIVE z value)

I am confused. :/

Lucci said:
Aye.
I apologize. I'm still getting used to this thing.
This is the picture of the graph...
graph.jpg


And when I mean a circle, I sort of imagine parameterized curves as being drawn by a moving t value. This t value will go in a circle around the z axis (x2+y2 while simultaneously moving up and down as z increases/decreases.

OK, thanks for the graph Lucci. I have a couple of observations. First, the question should have asked for "a parameterization" not "which parameterization" because there are many that would technically work. And, of course, as I believe you understand, it isn't the graph that is a circle but the xy parameter curve that is. And last, HallsOfIvy's parameterization doesn't satisfy your requirement that x(0) = 0.

Now to answer your question. The parameterization you gave is correct. It correctly parameterizes the unit circle and x(0) = 0 as required. What is confusing you is that your parameterization starts at the y-axis and goes around the other way than what you are used to. Looking down on the xy plane it goes around the circle clockwise. So at t = pi/2 you should get (1,0,-1) as the graph shows.
 
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