Finding the Density of a Planet using Time

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The problem involves determining the density of a planet based on the orbital period of a satellite in a circular orbit very close to the planet's surface. The original poster attempts to relate the period of the orbit to the planet's density, assuming uniform density throughout the planet.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to check units, particularly converting the period from hours to seconds. There is also a focus on the consistency of units in the derived formula for density.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on unit conversion and questioning the original poster's algebraic steps. There is an exploration of the implications of unit inconsistency in the calculations presented.

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Participants note the assumption of uniform density and the requirement to convert time units for accurate calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their algebraic skills and seeks clarification on where their reasoning may have faltered.

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Homework Statement


A satellite is in a circular orbit very close to the surface of a spherical planet. The period of the orbit is T = 2.52 hours.
What is density (mass/volume) of the planet? Assume that the planet has a uniform density.

Hint: "very close to the surface" means that Rorbit = Rplanet

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please look at image below

The Attempt at a Solution



[PLAIN]http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4624/34096608.png

Where did I go wrong. I feel like its my terrible algebra skillzz?

Thanks guys
 
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Check your units. What are the units of (4\pi T^2)/(4/3G)?
 
ohh I just have to change hours to seconds? Well that would make sense then my number won't be as big, which is a good sign. Okay thanks. ill try that orr maybe not..

Why would I have to change the units of G? T I understand.
 
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Yes, you have to do that, but that is not what I was talking about. You have as an answer

\rho = \frac{4\pi T^2}{G 4/3}

Numbers such as 3, 4, and pi are unitless. So let's throw them away:

\rho \propto \frac{T^2}{G}

The left-hand side is supposed to be a density with units of mass / volume = mass / length3 = mass * length-3. To have a consistent result, the right-hand side must have the same units. The period T has units of time while the gravitational constant G has units of length3/(mass*time2). Thus T2/G has units of time2/(length3/(mass*time2)) or mass*time4*length-3. Those are not the units of density.

Your units are inconsistent. That always means your result is garbage. Always.
 
Ok bare with me here,

So are you saying that my

d=t^2/G is wrong? I understand now how the units don't match up. But where did I go wrong?
 
At your second step you have M T^2 = (something)

At the bottom of the first column you have M = (something) T^2
You can just divide both sides of the first equation by T^2 instead of whatever
it is you did
 

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