Finding the Derivative of a Logarithmic Function with a Variable Exponent

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of a logarithmic function with a variable exponent, specifically for the equation xy² + x ln(x) = 4y. Participants are exploring the differentiation process and the application of implicit differentiation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to differentiate the given equation using implicit differentiation but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their answer. Some participants question the presence of dy/dx in certain terms, particularly in the context of the derivative of x ln(x).

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some suggesting alternative interpretations of the differentiation steps. There is a mix of agreement and questioning regarding the treatment of specific terms in the differentiation process.

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There is a focus on understanding the differentiation of logarithmic functions and the implications of variable exponents, with participants reflecting on the rules of differentiation and their application in this context.

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Another problem I'm not sure of :(

find [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] for the function xy[tex]^{2}[/tex] + x lnx = 4y

my answer

y[tex]^{2}[/tex] + x2y [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] + lnx + x (1/x) [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] = 4[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]

x2y [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] + [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] - 4[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] = -y [tex]^{2}[/tex] - lnx

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] ( x2y - 3) = -y[tex]^{2}[/tex] - lnx

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{-y ^{2} - lnx}{x2y - 3}[/tex]

I'm not sure if this is the correct answer again any guidance is greatly appreciated!
Thank you
 
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lamerali said:
Another problem I'm not sure of :(

find [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] for the function xy[tex]^{2}[/tex] + x lnx = 4y

my answer

y[tex]^{2}[/tex] + x2y [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] + lnx + x (1/x) [tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex] = 4[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[/tex]

Why does the fourth term here have a dy/dx in it? The derivative of xln(x) wrt x is ln(x)+x(1/x)
 
so should the dy/dx be eliminated from the ln(x) + x(1/x) completely? leaving the resulting derivative equal to

dy/dx = [tex]\frac{-y^{2} - lnx - 1}{ 2yx - 4}[/tex]
 
Yeah that looks correct.
 
Thank you :D
 

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