Finding the differential equation of motion

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The discussion revolves around finding the differential equation of motion for a particle sliding along a parabolic track. The original poster expresses uncertainty about simplifying their derived equation into a standard form and seeks assistance with two parts of the problem related to motion and energy conservation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the original poster's equation of motion and question the feasibility of simplifying it to a specific form associated with driven harmonic oscillators. There is also a suggestion to consider energy conservation as a method to find the velocity.

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The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem, with some participants agreeing on the equation of motion and suggesting methods based on energy considerations. However, there is no explicit consensus on the simplification of the differential equation.

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The original poster mentions initial conditions for the problem, which may influence the discussion but are not fully explored in the responses.

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Summary:: Differential equation of motion, parabola

Hi. I've tried resolve this problem but I have two doubts. The first is about the differential equation of motion because I can't simplify it to the form y" + a*y' + b*y = F(t). I'm not sure if what I got is right. My second doubt is that I cannot solve part b. Thank you in advance for your help.

In part a I got this: r"(R^2 + r^2) + (r'^2)r + g*r*R = 0.

Problem:
A particle of mass m slides without friction along a fixed track in the form of a parabola. The equation of the parabola is y = (r^2)/(2R). R is a constant, r is the distance between O and Q, y is the vertical distance. Initial conditions: r(t=0) = r_0 and r'(t=0) = 0.

a) Find the differential equation of motion in terms of the variable r.
b) Find an expression for (r')^2 in function of r.
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I agree with your equation of motion. The easiest way to find ##\dot{r}## is by considering the energy, which you should write as a function of ##r## and ##\dot{r}##. The energy is conserved and equal to its initial value, ##E(r,\dot{r}) = E_0##, which you can find from the initial conditions.
 
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dbeckam said:
I can't simplify it to the form y" + a*y' + b*y = F(t)
Why do you think it should be possible to simplify it to this form? This form is in essence a driven harmonic oscillator with a friction term.
 
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Orodruin said:
Why do you think it should be possible to simplify it to this form? This form is in essence a driven harmonic oscillator with a friction term.
Yes, I understand. Thanks!
 
ergospherical said:
I agree with your equation of motion. The easiest way to find ##\dot{r}## is by considering the energy, which you should write as a function of ##r## and ##\dot{r}##. The energy is conserved and equal to its initial value, ##E(r,\dot{r}) = E_0##, which you can find from the initial conditions.
I already resolved it. Thank you very much.
 

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