Finding the Equation of a Tangent at a Given Point on a Cubic Curve

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The problem involves finding the values of a and b in the equation of a cubic curve, f(x) = ax^3 + bx, given the equation of the tangent line at a specific point (-1, 3). The tangent line is expressed as y - x - 4 = 0.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the tangent line and the curve, exploring the implications of the slope derived from the tangent equation. There is an attempt to set up equations based on the slope and the point of tangency, with some questioning the correctness of the derived equations.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering hints and questioning assumptions about the slope and the equations formed. Some participants have proposed equations to solve for a and b, while others have raised concerns about the accuracy of these equations and the implications of the slope.

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There is a note that the derivative at the point of tangency is equal to the slope of the tangent line, which has led to some confusion regarding the setup of the equations. Participants are also encouraged to verify their solutions by substituting back into the original equations.

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Homework Statement


The equation of the tangent to the curve f(x)=ax^3+bx at the point of contact (-1;3) is
y-x-4=0. Calculate the values of a and b


Homework Equations



y-y1=m(x-x1)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am totally stuck, here is what I could derive:
Equation of tangent y=x+4
f'(x)=3ax^2+b

Dont know what to do, can someone please help?
 
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TheRedDevil18 said:

Homework Statement


The equation of the tangent to the curve f(x)=ax^3+bx at the point of contact (-1;3) is
y-x-4=0. Calculate the values of a and b

Homework Equations



y-y1=m(x-x1)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am totally stuck, here is what I could derive:
Equation of tangent y=x+4
f'(x)=3ax^2+b

Dont know what to do, can someone please help?

Hint: Equation of tangent is given by :

y-y1=f'(x)*(x-x1)

You are already given x1 and y1. Compare this with the already given equation of tangent.

Note: f'(x)=(dy/dx) at x=x1 and y=y1
 
You have one point common to the curve and the tangent line.
You know the value of the slope at the tangent point.

You have two equations and two unknowns.
 
Ok, set up two equations:
a-b=3
3a+b=0
Make a subject of formula:
a=3+b

plug into equation 2 and solved, final answer:
b=-9/4
a=3/4

All good?
 
What is the slope of the tangent line at point (-1,3)?

Your second equation is incorrect.

Always check your solutions by substituting back into original equations.
 
The slope would be 1, because y=mx+c and equation is y=x+4
 
TheRedDevil18 said:
The slope would be 1, because y=mx+c and equation is y=x+4
So why did you, previously, set 3a+b equal to 0?
 
How does slope = 1 affect your second equation for a and b?
 
Sorry guys, just slipped my mind that derivative is same as gradient, so my final answers should be:
a=1
b=-2
 

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