Finding the General Solution of an ODE: Help Needed!

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the general solution of a first-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) presented in a quadratic form. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach and the next steps to take after rearranging the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the nature of the equation, with one identifying it as a Clairaut Equation and suggesting resources for further understanding. Others mention the importance of examining the discriminant for solution existence and express uncertainty about the original poster's rearrangement and next steps.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the type of equation and potential methods for finding solutions. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance has been offered regarding the classification of the ODE and considerations for solving it.

Contextual Notes

The original poster indicates a lack of confidence in their approach and expresses a need for clarification on the next steps. There is mention of previous experience with similar problems, but relevant materials are currently inaccessible.

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Hi, can someone please help me with the following ODE? I need to find the general solution.

[tex] y = xy' + \frac{1}{{y'}}[/tex]

Rearranging I get a quadratic in dy/dx.

[tex] x\left( {\frac{{dy}}{{dx}}} \right)^2 - y\left( {\frac{{dy}}{{dx}}} \right) + 1 = 0[/tex]

[tex] \frac{{dy}}{{dx}} = \frac{{y \pm \sqrt {y^2 - 4x} }}{{2x}}[/tex]

I don't know what to do from this point nor am I sure if I've started the right way. Any help would be good thanks.
 
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That's a first order equation of degree two - you have to look at the discriminant you've found to find where solutions exist...

edit: I see sid deleted his reply - lucky I didn't quote it:wink:
 
This is a Clairaut Equation, and there is a nice way to find the general and singular solutions.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/ClairautsDifferentialEquation.html"
 
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Now that you mention the name of the DE, I remember doing a question on it last year. It's too bad that I've put that booklet containing the problem and the books which I did questions in away in storage. Anyway thanks for the help. It looks like I need to diff both sides wrtx.
 

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