Finding the incidence angle for refraction

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The discussion revolves around finding the angle of incidence for a light ray before it undergoes refraction, given specific indices of refraction for two media and an angle of refraction. The problem is situated within the context of optics and involves the application of Snell's Law.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of Snell's Law and the relationship between angles of incidence and refraction. Questions arise regarding the critical angle and the reversibility of light paths. Some participants express confusion about the conditions under which total internal reflection occurs and how it relates to the given indices of refraction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants examining different aspects of the problem, including the critical angle and the behavior of light as the angle of incidence changes. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, particularly regarding the conditions for refraction versus reflection.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for confusion due to the indices of refraction and the angles involved, particularly in relation to the concept of reversibility in light paths. The original poster's calculations lead to a domain error, prompting further investigation into the physical implications of the scenario.

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Homework Statement



I am to find the angle of incidence of a light ray before it undergoes refraction. Light is refracted in the second medium at an angle of 76 degrees measured from the normal. The second index of refraction is 1.386. The index of refraction for the initial or first medium is 1.336.

Homework Equations



Snell's Law n1sin(theta 1) = n2 sin (theta 2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I worked through Snell's Law and found that sin ( theta one) is 1.006 . When I attempt to take the inverse SIN for the angle, I get domain error because the value is greater than 1.

This can't be internal reflection because the second medium has a higher index of refraction than the first?

All help is appreciated! Thanks
 
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Although this is not total internal reflection, the situation here is related to the critical angle.

If a ray of light refracts going from material 1 to material 2, then that ray should be "reversible". That is, light should be able to travel the same path in the reversed direction from material 2 back into material 1.

So, for the reversed path in your problem, the ray would start in material 2 and have an angle of incidence of 76 degrees. How is 76 degrees related to the critical angle for going from material 2 to material 1?

Another way to look at the problem is to consider the light going from material 1 into material 2 with greater and greater angles of incidence in material 1. As you increase the angle of incidence in material 1, what happens to the angle of refraction in material 2? What would you let the angle of incidence be to find the greatest possible angle of refraction in material 2? How does this maximum angle of refraction compare with 76 degrees?
 
TSny said:
Although this is not total internal reflection, the situation here is related to the critical angle.

If a ray of light refracts going from material 1 to material 2, then that ray should be "reversible". That is, light should be able to travel the same path in the reversed direction from material 2 back into material 1.

So, for the reversed path in your problem, the ray would start in material 2 and have an angle of incidence of 76 degrees. How is 76 degrees related to the critical angle for going from material 2 to material 1?

Another way to look at the problem is to consider the light going from material 1 into material 2 with greater and greater angles of incidence in material 1. As you increase the angle of incidence in material 1, what happens to the angle of refraction in material 2? What would you let the angle of incidence be to find the greatest possible angle of refraction in material 2? How does this maximum angle of refraction compare with 76 degrees?

I noticed you left reversible in quotations. Why must we address a reversible ray when the ray is not physically going from a high medium to a lower medium of index?

I can see what you're saying as the incidence angle is increased, I even did some online simulators, but I cannot grasp as to why this occurs. I thought this type of reflection only occurred again when going from a high index to a low index.
 
SirBerr said:
I noticed you left reversible in quotations. Why must we address a reversible ray when the ray is not physically going from a high medium to a lower medium of index?

If a ray of light is possible in one direction, then the reversed ray must also be possible. (Both rays will satisfy Snell's law). See the attached picture. So, if you can show that the reversed ray is impossible, that means the original ray is impossible. That's why you can't get an answer with your calculator.
I can see what you're saying as the incidence angle is increased, I even did some online simulators, but I cannot grasp as to why this occurs. I thought this type of reflection only occurred again when going from a high index to a low index.
We're not talking about reflection here, just refraction in going from medium 1 to medium 2. There is a greatest value that θ2 can be. If 76o is greater than that maximum possible angle of refraction, then it's impossible for a ray to be refracted at 76o. So, that's another way to see why your calculator is giving an error.
 

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