Finding the Interval of Convergence for a Series

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The discussion revolves around finding the interval of convergence for the series \(\sum^{+\infty}_{n=1} \frac{(x+1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}\) and analyzing its behavior at the endpoints. Participants explore the implications of using the ratio test and the nature of convergence at specific values of \(x\).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the application of the ratio test and the resulting interval of convergence. Questions arise regarding the comparison test used for the alternating series at the endpoints, particularly concerning the validity of comparing terms with alternating signs to non-alternating series.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the original poster's reasoning and suggesting alternative approaches, such as the alternating series test. There is a recognition of the need for careful consideration of the nature of the series when applying convergence tests.

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Participants note confusion regarding the comparison of alternating series to non-alternating series and the implications of using different convergence tests. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their conclusions based on the comparison test.

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Find the interval of convergence of the given series and its behavior at the endpoints:


[tex]\sum^{+\infty}_{n=1} \frac{(x+1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex] [tex]= (x+1) + \frac{(x+1)^2}{\sqrt(2)}+...[/tex]


The attempt at a solution

Using the ratio test: [tex]\left|\frac{S_{n+1}}{S_{n}}\right| = \sqrt{\frac{n}{n+1}}\left|x+1\right|[/tex]

Hence, [tex]lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \left|\frac{S_{n+1}}{S_{n}}\right|= \left|x+1\right|[/tex]

So, the interval of convergence is |x+1|<1, which implies -1<x<1 which in turn is equal to: -2<x<0

At the right hand endpoint where x = 0 we have the divergent p-series [tex]\sum^{+\infty}_{n=1} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex] (with p=1/2).

At the left endpoint x=-2 we get the alternating series [tex]\sum^{+\infty}_{n=1} \frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex]. The book says this series converges but I used the comparison test & found out that it's NOT!

Sn = (1)n+11/√n diverges by comparison with the p-series ∑1/√n (since p<1)

I’m really confused right now, if it is supposed to converge then why does it diverge by the comparison test? What mistakes did I make?

Thanks.
 
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I'm confused by what you are comparing [tex]\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex] to?

How can you compare it to [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex]?

The first has negative and positive terms whereas the latter does not.
 
NoMoreExams said:
I'm confused by what you are comparing [tex]\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex] to?

How can you compare it to [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex]?

The first has negative and positive terms whereas the latter does not.

So, what else can I compare it to...?

Why can't we just re-write the first as [tex](-1)^{n+1}\frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex] and then compare it to the p-series [tex]\sum \frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex]?
 
because [tex](-1)^{n+1} \frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex] will still have positive and negative terms right? You'd need a test that has "Absolute" in the name :) if anything.
 
Hmm, I'm really curious!...
For example, what test can you use for [tex]\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex]?

Roam
 
roam said:
Hmm, I'm really curious!...
For example, what test can you use for [tex]\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex]?

Roam
How about the alternating series test? You know that one, don't you?
 
Oh OK, here's a part of the theorem for alternating series: Let ∑(-1)n+1an be an alternating series. If the sequance [tex]\left\langle a_{n}\right\rangle[/tex] is decreasing then ∑(-1)n+1an converges to a sum A.

So, for [tex]\frac{(-1)^n}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex], we can write it as [tex](-1)^n \frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}[/tex].

Since [tex]\left\langle \frac{1}{\sqrt{n}} \right\rangle[/tex] is a decreasing sequance (& also divergent), the series converge by virtue of the alternating series test.

Is this correct? Does it make any sense now?
 
Makes sense to me, as an extreme example of why your original logic doesn't work, think about what the following will produce:

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(-1)^n}{n}[/tex] vs. [tex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{(1)^n}{n}[/tex]

The fact that you have alternating terms is a pretty big deal.
 

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