Finding the Limit of ln(1+e^x)/e^x: A Puzzling Problem

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The problem involves finding the limit of the expression ln(1+e^x)/e^x as x approaches negative infinity, which presents challenges in limit evaluation and algebraic manipulation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of L'Hopital's rule and the substitution of variables, questioning the correctness of algebraic steps taken during the limit evaluation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods to approach the limit. Some have provided guidance on the application of L'Hopital's rule and the implications of variable substitution.

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There is confusion regarding the behavior of the expression as x approaches negative infinity and the implications of substituting u = e^x, as well as the algebraic manipulations involved in applying L'Hopital's rule.

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Problem: Find the limit of ln(1+e^x)/e^x as x approaches negative infinity

I really have no idea how to do this kind of limit, so I guessed. I tried to substitute u=e^x to get ln(1+u)/u as u approaches negative infinity, then applying l'hopital's rule and eventually ended up with 1/negative infinity which is zero. This wasn't the right answer (which was 1). Appearently what I did wasn't the right thing, so what is the right way for this kind of problem?
 
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As x goes to infinity, we have an indeterminate form of 0/0. So apply L'Hopital's rule.

Show us your work because using L'Hopital should have worked because you messed up your algebra.
 
Ok, substituting u = e^x

lim ln(1+u)/u as u approaches negative infinity.

Applying lhopital's rule we have

1/(u+1)/1

so the limit of 1/(u+1) as u approaches negative infinity = 1/(negative infinity+1) = 1/negative infinity = 0

Which part did I mess up?
 
As x goes to negative infinity, what does u go to?
 
Quit substituting, you don't need to at all.

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow-\infty}\frac{\ln{(1+e^x)}}{e^x}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow-\infty}\frac{\frac{e^x}{1+e^x}}{e^x}[/tex]

[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow-\infty}\frac{1}{1+e^x}[/tex]

Answer ...
 
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Right, thanks.
 

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