Finding the linear density of charge on a cylinder

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The problem involves a rod with a charge linear density λ positioned along the axis of a cylinder that has a charge linear density of 2λ. Participants are tasked with using Gauss's law to determine the charge linear density on the surfaces of the cylinder and the electric field outside the cylinder at a distance from the rod. There is some confusion regarding the terminology used in the problem statement, particularly concerning the reference to "long" rod and cylinder.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants express confusion about the problem's wording and question the validity of the assumptions made regarding the linear charge density. Others explore the possibility of converting linear density to surface density and discuss how to interpret the charge density in relation to the geometry of the rod and cylinder.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and questioning the assumptions in the problem. Some have suggested that the linear density can be treated as constant with respect to certain dimensions, while others are exploring the implications of the problem's wording. No consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of clarity in the problem statement regarding the "long" nature of the rod and cylinder, which may affect the applicability of Gauss's law. There is also mention of potential constraints in converting linear density to surface density, which remains an open question in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A rod with charge linear density λ is located at the long axis of a cylinder with charge linear density 2λ. With this information use Gauss's law to find (a) the charge linear density on the interior and exterior surfaces of the cylinder (b) the electric field outside of the cylinder at a distance r from the rod.

Just to make sure: my questionnaire does refer to charge linear density, not surface density. My questionnaire does not make reference to a "long" rod nor a "long" cylinder. I've read these calculations are next to impossible if there's no reference to "longness".

Homework Equations



Θ=q/ε

q=λL -- for the rod

The Attempt at a Solution



This question does not make any sense to me. So I'm not going to try to answer it, because I'm in disagreement with the question. I hope you also consider the question is wrong or weird or prove me wrong so I can understand.

Thanks a lot.
 
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Is there a way to convert linear density to surface density?
 
Hmmm... I have also had similar issues with poorly worded problems. In order to make sense I would have to assume that by linear charge density on the cylinder, they meant for you to take it as 2pi R dL with L being the length of (presumably) the rod and cylinder both. The charge density would then be linear with respect to L. I'm not entirely sure though. Not answering a problem, however, normally doesn't work out too well.

If you look at the charge density this way, you should be able to treat it as linear due to symmetry about the rod for all points on the cylinder.
 
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I was thinking that if I take the wording as it is, then the linear density on the surface (interior and exterior) is just 2λ based on what their statement was.

As far as part (b) goes, I was thinking if there is some way to convert linear density to surface density so that I can then use gauss's law to calculate the charge contained within some gaussian surface at 'r' distance from that system.

Any ideas if this is at all possible? (converting linear density to surface density).

Thanks.
 
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I'm not really sure how I feel about that honestly, I've seen it done in reverse (unjustifiably in my opinion). It can be done in certain circumstances, and this might be one of them. After sleeping on it and reading it again, it does seem like what they mean by linear charge density is that the density doesn't vary with r or theta, only L or z or whatever you want to call your cylindrical axis. That being the case, you shouldn't necessarily need to convert it, because your surface integral from gauss' law will merely be a function of L and constants.
 

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