Finding the Magnitude of Pushing Force with Kinetic Friction?

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Homework Statement


The block is pushed to the right at a constant velocity. If the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.5, what is the magnitude of the pushing force?


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I don't know...


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no they didnt give the mass of the block, that is why I am so confused my teacher said something about sigma Fx=0 and sigma Fy=0 but i don't know what to do with those numbers, all i know is velocity is constant which makes acceleration 0 which makes force of x and y 0, but after that I am lost
 
jr4life said:
no they didnt give the mass of the block, that is why I am so confused my teacher said something about sigma Fx=0 and sigma Fy=0 but i don't know what to do with those numbers, all i know is velocity is constant which makes acceleration 0 which makes force of x and y 0, but after that I am lost

Yes, net force in the x direction is 0. Net force in the y-direction is 0.

What are the forces acting in the y-direction?

What are the forces acting in the x-direction?
 
In the x direction is the pushing force and force of friction and in the y direction is force of gravity on a box whos mass is not given and the normal force, i think the lack of given numbers is confuing me
 
jr4life said:
In the x direction is the pushing force and force of friction and in the y direction is force of gravity on a box whos mass is not given and the normal force, i think the lack of given numbers is confuing me

Yeah, just use the variables... let mass = m.

Write the [tex]\Sigma\vec{F} = ma[/tex] equation for the x-direction... then for the y-direction... just use the variables...
 
in x direction it would be (mass)(0) so resultant force would be 0, because acceleration would be 0 due to constant velocity and in y direction (mass)(9.8) and then i don't really know what you could do with that...
 
jr4life said:
in x direction it would be (mass)(0) so resultant force would be 0, because acceleration would be 0 due to constant velocity and in y direction (mass)(9.8) and then i don't really know what you could do with that...

Write the equations using Fpushing, friction, mg, Fnormal... how do they add or subtract?
 
learningphysics said:
Write the equations using Fpushing, friction, mg, Fnormal... how do they add or subtract?

mg-Fnormal=0

this is where i get confused with x because they are not in equilibrium so they wouldn't equal 0
Fpushing-friction=?? idk
 
jr4life said:
mg-Fnormal=0

this is where i get confused with x because they are not in equilibrium so they wouldn't equal 0
Fpushing-friction=?? idk

It equals 0, because acceleration is 0 (constant velocity). Now, you also know that friction = [tex]\mu * F_{normal}[/tex]

Solve for Fpushing using your two equations, in terms of mass, [tex]\mu[/tex] and g.
 
learningphysics said:
It equals 0, because acceleration is 0 (constant velocity). Now, you also know that friction = [tex]\mu * F_{normal}[/tex]

Solve for Fpushing using your two equations, in terms of mass, [tex]\mu[/tex] and g.

ok, i understand why it equals zero now but when you use that equation would it be
friction=(0.5)(9.8m) and which two equations are you referring to?
 
jr4life said:
ok, i understand why it equals zero now but when you use that equation would it be
friction=(0.5)(9.8m) and which two equations are you referring to?

Yes, that's right...

The two equations I meant were:

Fpushing - friction = 0
Fnormal - mg = 0

you actually used the second equation to get friction = 0.5*9.8*m

So what does Fpushing come out to...
 
learningphysics said:
Yes, that's right...

The two equations I meant were:

Fpushing - friction = 0
Fnormal - mg = 0

you actually used the second equation to get friction = 0.5*9.8*m

So what does Fpushing come out to...

Fpushing-(0.5)(9.8m)=0
Fpushing-4.9m=0
Fpushing=4.9m??
 
jr4life said:
Fpushing-(0.5)(9.8m)=0
Fpushing-4.9m=0
Fpushing=4.9m??

Seems good to me.