Finding the Maximum Positive Transverse Velocity of a Transverse Wave

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The problem involves analyzing a transverse wave described by the equation y=0.02 sin(30x-400t) to determine the first positive x-coordinate where the transverse velocity is maximized at t=0. The context is within the subject area of wave mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the wave equation to find the velocity and question the correctness of the derivative. There are inquiries about the variable with respect to which differentiation is performed, and some participants express confusion about the implications of their calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's differentiation attempts and clarifying concepts related to velocity and its calculation. There is recognition of mistakes made in the differentiation process, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or final answer.

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Participants are navigating through potential errors in their calculations and assumptions about the differentiation process, particularly regarding the relationship between position, time, and velocity in the context of wave motion.

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Homework Statement


A transverse wave is described by y=0.02 sin(30x-400t). Determine the first positive x-coordinate (x>0) for which the transverse velocity of that point in the medium is at its maximum positive value when t=0. All variables are in SI units.

a) 5.2 cm b) 10.4cm c) 15.7 cm d.20.9 e) none of the above.

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I found the derivative of the position equation to get the equation of velocity, at t=0 which is v = 0.6 cos(30x). I equated it to max velocity which is 0.6, therefore getting 1=cos(30x). arcos(1) is 2pi, which I later divided by 30 to get 0.209.
Where did I make a mistake?
 
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sugz said:
y=0.02 sin(30x-400t)
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v = 0.6 cos(30x)
Double check your differentiation. Is this the correct dy/dt?

Edit: p.s. arccos(1) is 0 but that's not relevant.
 
I assumed we would be differentiating in terms of x, how do we know which variable we are differentiating in terms of?
 
sugz said:
I assumed we would be differentiating in terms of x, how do we know which variable we are differentiating in terms of?
The definition of velocity is the derivative with respect to time.
 
Oh right, my mistake. Also, even if I were to differentiate with respect to time, the equation obtained is y= 8 cos(30x-400t) and I plug in the value of t=0, getting the equation of y= 8 cos(30x). The position when the velocity is at maximum positive velocity, which is 8. Therefore you get the equation 8=8cos(30x). I will still get the same results, no?
 
sugz said:
Oh right, my mistake. Also, even if I were to differentiate with respect to time, the equation obtained is y= 8 cos(30x-400t)
That's not quite the right equation. You're missing a factor of negative 1, aren't you?
 
Oh right, now I see where I made a mistake! Thank you so much!
 

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