Finding the Minimum Value of AC in a Triangle with Given Side Lengths

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The problem involves triangle ABC with given side lengths expressed in terms of a variable x and an angle of 120°. Participants are tasked with showing a relationship for AC^2 and finding the value of x that minimizes AC.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the process of completing the square and question the derivation of the equation set to zero. There is confusion about the meaning of minimizing a quadratic expression and the implications of imaginary numbers arising from the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing with participants exploring different interpretations of the minimization process. Some have suggested that the minimum value occurs at a specific point, while others are clarifying the implications of their calculations and questioning assumptions about the results.

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There is uncertainty regarding the setup of the problem and the interpretation of the minimum value in the context of the quadratic equation. Participants are also navigating the implications of complex numbers in their calculations.

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Homework Statement



In △ABC, AB=(2-x) cm, BC=(x+1) cm and ∠ABC=120°:

(a) Show that AC^2=x^2-x+7.

(b) Find the value of x for which AC has a minimum value

The Attempt at a Solution



I am having trouble with part 'b'
am suppose to complete the square , but I don't seem to get the right answer.

[tex]x^2 -x +7 =0[/tex]

[tex]x^2 -x = -7[/tex]

[tex](x- \frac{1}{2} )^2 = -7 + \frac{1}{4}[/tex]

[tex](x- \frac{1}{2} )^2 = \frac{-27}{4}[/tex]

[tex]x- \frac{1}{2} = -\frac{\sqrt27}{2}[/tex] and than am I suppose to solve for x ? what does it mean by minimum value?
 
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tweety1234 said:
[tex]x^2 -x +7 =0[/tex]

uhh? :confused: where did "=0" come from??

just minimise (x - 1/2)2 + 27/4 :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
uhh? :confused: where did "=0" come from??

just minimise (x - 1/2)2 + 27/4 :wink:

I don't understand what you mean by 'minimise' ? [tex]\frac{1}{4} + \frac{27}{4} = 7[/tex]

x=7?
 
tweety1234 said:
I don't understand what you mean by 'minimise' ?

Find the value of x for which (x - 1/2)2 + 27/4 is a minimum … what is that minimum? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
Find the value of x for which (x - 1/2)2 + 27/4 is a minimum … what is that minimum? :smile:


IS the minimum 27/4 , when x = 1/2?
 
tweety1234 said:
IS the minimum 27/4 , when x = 1/2?

Yup! :biggrin:

That's what completing the square is all about! :wink:
 
tweety1234 said:
[tex](x- \frac{1}{2} )^2 = \frac{-27}{4}[/tex]

[tex]x- \frac{1}{2} = -\frac{\sqrt27}{2}[/tex]


This step is not correct as taking the square root of a negative number (right hand side of equation) results in complex, imaginary numbers; not the negative square root as you've done. Since x is imaginary, it means that [tex]x^2-x+7 \neq 0[/tex]
And of course, you've already seen that the minimum value is 27/4 which is more than 0.
 

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