Finding the Net Charge of the Earth

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The discussion focuses on calculating the net charge of the Earth using Gauss's Law, with an electric field strength of 142 N/C. The initial calculation yielded a charge of approximately -6.425e+5 C, leading to the conclusion that the Earth has about 4.02e+24 excess electrons. A mistake was identified in the calculation of electrons per square meter, with the correct result being approximately 1.27e-10 electrons per square meter instead of 7.86e+9. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of clear mathematical notation and unit cancellation in physics problems. Overall, the problem was resolved successfully, providing valuable insights for similar inquiries.
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Homework Statement



The Earth is surrounded by an electric field, pointing inward at every point. Assume a magnitude of E = 142N/C near the surface.
a) What is the net charge on the Earth?
b) How many excess electrons per square meter on the Earth's surface does this correspond to?

E = 142 N/C
Radius of Earth = 6.3781 km = 6,378,100 m

Homework Equations



Gauss's Law = EA

The Attempt at a Solution



So i know that i have to use Gauss's Law here. Which is simple the Electric Field, (given) and the area of the Earth which is found be 4πr2

Gauss's Law = EA
= (142) * (4πr2)
= (142) * (4π(6,378,100)2)
= (142) * (5.11e+14)
= 7.26e+16 C

however. After attempting that, i found it wasn't the right answer. Where did i go wrong?

i haven't attempted the second part since i need to know the first part. But i assume that to do it i would have to find the surface area of the Earth and divide it by the number i found in part a, then divide that by 1.6e-19 to find the number of electrons?
 
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Nevermind. I solved the problem.
 
If you don't mind, please post the solution and what brought you to it. It's always helpful for others who might have a similar question to be able to see how others having the same issue might successfully approach it.
 
Gauss's Law = EA
= (142) * (4πr2)
= (142) * (4π(6,378,100)2)
= (142) * (5.11e+14)
= 7.26e+16 C

θ = 180° for each ∆A => -1
(Basically means it's negative since electric field and ∆A are in complete opposite directions So Electric Field then is just a negative)

Gauss's Law = q / E0
q = (-E * A * E0 )
q = -E * E0 * Area
q = -[142] * [8.85e-12] * [4π(6,378,100)2]
q = [-7.26e+16 C] * [8.85e-12 C2 / Nm2]
q = -6.425e+5

Number of Electrons (Part b)

We know the electric field of the Earth = -6.425e+5
That is -6.425e+5 / -1.6e-19 = 4.02e+24 Electrons
The Earth is 5.11e+14 Square meters

5.11e+14 / 4.02e+24
= 7.86e9 Electrons per Square Meter
 
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Looks good. Thank you. For future reference, by the way, you can simply write Gauss's law as flux = closed integral of E dot dA = qencl. / epsilon0 (and using the TeX tags you can represent flux with the capital Phi using ' \Phi ' and lowercase epsilon w/ subscript 0 ("epsilon naught") as ' \epsilon_{0} ' -- case-sensitive for both of those, and the closed integral as ' \oint_{S} ' to show it's the closed integral over the surface).

You can also simply rewrite it in ASCII if you're in a hurry as

q_enc = eps_0 * (E . dA)

where the boldface letters represent vector quantities.

One of the great things about PF is that it has a wide range of easy-to-learn tools to let you express your mathematics clearly.

But yeah, you got the answer right. At this point I'm basically just talking style: It's less confusing to the reader when you say "flux" or "Phi" equals this or that instead of saying "Gauss's Law" equals something.
 
Also is it possible to show how your units cancel out to be Coulombs only for the net charge of the earth? It would help a lot since I am trying to figure out how the units cancel. Thanks in advance.

Also for your last part (5.11e14)/(4.02e24) =/= 7.89e9.
(5.11e14)/(4.02e24) = 1.27e-10.

I think you just switched the numbers around wrong but the answers are correct.
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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