Finding the nth+1 derivative via Leibniz

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The discussion focuses on finding the nth derivative of a function using the Leibniz product formula, specifically addressing the equation f(n+1) = f(n) + 3n(n-1)f(n-2) evaluated at x=0 for n > 1. Participants confirm that proving this equation holds for all n > 1 can be approached through mathematical induction. The base case is established for n=2, and the inductive step involves assuming the statement is true for n=k and demonstrating it for n=k+1. The general form of f(n) is expressed as a summation involving derivatives of two functions, f and g.

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Homework Statement



I'm told to find the nth derivative of a function via http://www.math.osu.edu/~nevai.1/H16x/DOCUMENTS/leibniz_product_formula_H6.pdf.


Homework Equations



Then I'm asked to show that f(n+1)=f(n)+3n(n-1)f(n-2) evaluated at x=0 when n>1


The Attempt at a Solution



I can solve this just fine when plugging in a constant for n. For example, when n=2, f '" = f " + 6 f, no problem. My question though is whether this is enough to prove that the above equation balances for all n>1?

If not, how would I show this? Would I need to use the general form of f(n) I found via the Leibniz formula? How would this work? I ask this because it is of the form f(n) = Ʃk=0n (n!/k!(n-k!) * (dk/dxk*f) * (dn-k/dxn-k*g)) and am not sure how I would transform that into f(n+1) or f(n-2) with the summation and combination.

Thank you in advance!
 
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If not, how would I show this? Would I need to use the general form of f(n) I found via the Leibniz formula? How would this work? I ask this because it is of the form f(n) = Ʃk=0n (n!/k!(n-k!) * (dk/dxk*f) * (dn-k/dxn-k*g)) and am not sure how I would transform that into f(n+1) or f(n-2) with the summation and combination.
Are you using f to stand for more than one function here? It appears on both the left and in the summation. How does g fit into all of this?
 
Gallagher said:

Homework Statement



I'm told to find the nth derivative of a function via http://www.math.osu.edu/~nevai.1/H16x/DOCUMENTS/leibniz_product_formula_H6.pdf.

Homework Equations



Then I'm asked to show that f(n+1)=f(n)+3n(n-1)f(n-2) evaluated at x=0 when n>1

The Attempt at a Solution



I can solve this just fine when plugging in a constant for n. For example, when n=2, f '" = f " + 6 f, no problem. My question though is whether this is enough to prove that the above equation balances for all n>1?

If not, how would I show this? Would I need to use the general form of f(n) I found via the Leibniz formula? How would this work? I ask this because it is of the form f(n) = Ʃk=0n (n!/k!(n-k!) * (dk/dxk*f) * (dn-k/dxn-k*g)) and am not sure how I would transform that into f(n+1) or f(n-2) with the summation and combination.

Thank you in advance!
It looks like a straight up proof by induction. You claim to now how to do the base step: that's showing it's true when n=2 .

For the inductive step:
Assume the statement is true when n = k .

From that assumption (plus your mathematical skill) show that the statement is true for n = k+1.​

In other words:

Assume that the following is true for k > 1 :
f(k+1) = f(k)+3k(k-1)f(k-2) evaluated at x=0 .​

Show that the following follows from this assumption :
f((k+1)+1) = f(k+1)+3(k+1)((k+1)-1)f((k+1)-2)
which simplifies to:

f(k+2) = f(k+1)+(3k+3)(k)f(k-1)
All evaluated at x=0 .
 

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