Finding the Optimal Angle for a Baseball to Return to its Release Point

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the optimal angle at which a baseball must be thrown so that it returns to its original release point, considering the effects of horizontal acceleration due to wind. The subject area includes kinematics and projectile motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equations of motion in both the x and y directions, noting the presence of two unknowns: the angle θ and time t. There are attempts to substitute equations to reduce the number of unknowns.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared their calculations and are seeking clarification on the conditions when the ball returns to the hand, particularly regarding the values of x and y. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the variables involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the wind affects only horizontal motion and that vertical motion is independent of this effect. There is also a mention of needing to set both x and y to zero when the ball returns to the release point.

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Homework Statement


A boy throws a ball upward with a speed of vo= 12m/s. The wind imparts a horizontal acceleration of 0.4m/s^2 to the left. At what angle theta must the ball be thrown so that it returns to the point of release. (assuming wind does not affect vertical motion.


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The Attempt at a Solution


I have written down all the formulas in the x and y directions, but it doesn't work out. I have also tried to look for what distance Vy=0 but i still end up having 2 unknowns.
 
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Hi Larrytsai! :smile:

(have a theta: θ and try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)

You should have only two unknowns, θ and t, so two equations should be enough.

Show us your full calculations, and then we can see what went wrong, and we'll know how to help! :smile:
 


ok so what i have so far is,
for y:
y= (1/2 a t^2) + (Vo cosθ t)
(Vcosθ)^2 = (Vocosθ)^2 + 2ay

for x:
x= (1/2 a t^2) + (Vo sinθ t)
(Vsinθ)^2 = (Vosinθ)^2 + 2ax

so far how i see it is I am going to substitute my 2 x equations and my 2 y equations, then ill have 2 equations left to subtitute which are θ and time.
 
Larrytsai said:
ok so what i have so far is,
for y:
y= (1/2 a t^2) + (Vo cosθ t)
(Vcosθ)^2 = (Vocosθ)^2 + 2ay

for x:
x= (1/2 a t^2) + (Vo sinθ t)
(Vsinθ)^2 = (Vosinθ)^2 + 2ax

so far how i see it is I am going to substitute my 2 x equations and my 2 y equations, then ill have 2 equations left to subtitute which are θ and time.

(hmm … the second and fourth equations are just V = V0 … that doesn't help much)

What's the difficulty?

Put all the numbers in, including x = y = 0, and what do you get? :smile:
 


ohh ok, i got the answer, thnx so much, but I am a little confused as to why x is 0, I am thinking that when the height and horizontal distance is 0 , the ball has landed back in the boys hand, therefore the time elapsed is the same so we can subsitute for time?

btw thanks a lot
 
Hi Larrytsai! :smile:

Yes, you're getting confused.

When the ball returns to the hand, both x and y are 0, and the time elapsed is t (say).

So the same t appears in both the equation for x and the equation for y.
 


What substitutions were made?
 

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