Finding the Orthogonal Complement of a Vector Space

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The discussion revolves around finding the orthogonal complement of a vector space in the context of a bilinear form defined by a specific matrix. The problem involves understanding the conditions under which a bilinear form evaluates to zero for all vectors in R4.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the setup of a linear equation system based on the bilinear form B(x, y). There is an exploration of how to express the conditions that must hold for all y in R4.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified specific equations that must be satisfied for the vectors in the orthogonal complement. There is a recognition of the implications of these equations on the variables involved, and a few participants express agreement on the derived conditions.

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Participants note the challenge of dealing with a single equation that involves multiple unknowns, leading to a discussion about the implications of this on the solution space.

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Homework Statement


[itex]G:=[/itex]
\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0\\
1 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{pmatrix}

[itex]B(x,y) = x^{T}Gy[/itex]

[itex]B: \textit{R}^{4} X \textit{R}^{4} \rightarrow \textit{R}[/itex]

Find [itex](\textit{R}^{4})^{\bot}[/itex]

Homework Equations



[itex](\textit{R}^{4})^{\bot} = \left\{x | B(x,y)=0,\forall y\in\textit{R}^{4} \right\}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have to solve a linear equation system but I don't know how to set it up.
I could only find examples where a subspace of the vektor space was given.
Any hints are much appreciated.
 
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AwesomeTrains said:

Homework Statement


[itex]G:=[/itex]
\begin{pmatrix}
1 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 0 \\
1 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{pmatrix}

[itex]B(x,y) = x^{T}Gy[/itex]

[itex]B: \textit{R}^{4} X \textit{R}^{4} \rightarrow \textit{R}[/itex]

Find [itex](\textit{R}^{4})^{\bot}[/itex]

Homework Equations



[itex](\textit{R}^{4})^{\bot} = \left\{x | B(x,y)=0,\forall y\in\textit{R}^{4} \right\}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have to solve a linear equation system but I don't know how to set it up.
I could only find examples where a subspace of the vektor space was given.
Any hints are much appreciated.
This is what I would do. Start by writing out what B(x, y) means.

$$B(x, y) = \begin{bmatrix} x_1 & x_2 & x_3 & x_4\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 & 0 & 1\\ 0 & 1 & 1 & 0 \\ 0 & 1 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 0 & 0 & 1 \end{bmatrix}\begin{bmatrix} y_1 \\ y_2 \\ y_3 \\ y_4\end{bmatrix} $$

You want all vectors x in R4 such that B(x, y) = 0 for any y in R4.
 
Yes, but wouldn't that give me one equation with 8 unknowns.
[itex]y_{1}(x_{1}+x_{4})+y_{2}(x_{2}+x_{3})+y_{3}(x_{2}+x_{3})+y_{4}(x_{1}+x_{4}) = 0[/itex]
 
AwesomeTrains said:
Yes, but wouldn't that give me one equation with 8 unknowns.
[itex]y_{1}(x_{1}+x_{4})+y_{2}(x_{2}+x_{3})+y_{3}(x_{2}+x_{3})+y_{4}(x_{1}+x_{4}) = 0[/itex]
But the expression on the left side has to be identically zero for any choices of the y values, so what conditions does that place on the four x values?
 
[itex]x_{1}+x_{4}=0[/itex] and [itex]x_{2}+x_{3}=0[/itex]
Is that what you mean?
 
AwesomeTrains said:
[itex]x_{1}+x_{4}=0[/itex] and [itex]x_{2}+x_{3}=0[/itex]
Is that what you mean?
Yes.
 
Then [itex]x_{1} = -x_{4} = -b[/itex], [itex]x_{2} := a[/itex], [itex]x_{3} = -x_{2} = -a[/itex] and [itex]x_{4} := b[/itex]
[itex]\quad (R^{4})^{\bot}=a\begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> -1 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> \end{pmatrix}+ b\begin{pmatrix}<br /> -1 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> \end{pmatrix}[/itex]
Have I got it right?
 
Looks good.
 
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