Finding the partial derivatives of function

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The discussion revolves around finding the partial derivatives of the function \( z = \frac{1}{x}[f(x-y) + g(x+y)] \) and proving a specific relationship involving these derivatives. The problem is situated within the context of multivariable calculus, specifically focusing on partial derivatives and the application of the chain rule.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with finding the partial derivatives without explicit forms for the functions \( f \) and \( g \). Some suggest that leaving \( f \) and \( g \) in the expressions might lead to cancellations. Questions arise regarding the application of the chain rule and specific derivative calculations, such as \( f_y(x-y) \) and \( f_x(x+y) \).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the use of the chain rule and how to handle the derivatives of composite functions. Some guidance has been offered on applying the chain rule, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of working with undefined functions \( f \) and \( g \), which impacts their ability to compute the required derivatives. The discussion reflects a common constraint in homework settings where specific forms of functions are not provided.

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Homework Statement



If [itex]z=\frac{1}{x}[f(x-y)+g(x+y)][/itex], prove that [itex]\frac{\partial }{\partial x}(x^2\frac{\partial z}{\partial x})=x^2\frac{\partial^2 z}{\partial y^2}[/itex]

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I don't know how I'm supposed to find the partial derivative of z with respect to any of variables if the function f and g are not expressed.
Help me!

Thank you
 
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chmate said:

Homework Statement



If [itex]z=\frac{1}{x}[f(x-y)+g(x+y)][/itex], prove that [itex]\frac{\partial }{\partial x}(x^2\frac{\partial z}{\partial x})=x^2\frac{\partial^2 z}{\partial y^2}[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know how I'm supposed to find the partial derivative of z with respect to any of variables if the function f and g are not expressed.
Help me!

Thank you

Just leave the f and g in there, maybe they will cancel out. For example, if you want the partial of f(x-y) with respect to y it would be:$$
f_y(x-y) = -1\cdot f'(x-y)$$and so on.
 
LCKurtz said:
Just leave the f and g in there, maybe they will cancel out. For example, if you want the partial of f(x-y) with respect to y it would be:$$
f_y(x-y) = -1\cdot f'(x-y)$$and so on.

Can you explain me why [itex]f_y(x-y) = -1\cdot f'(x-y)[/itex]? I don't get it.
What is then [itex]f_x(x+y) = ?[/itex]
 
chmate said:
Can you explain me why [itex]f_y(x-y) = -1\cdot f'(x-y)[/itex]? I don't get it.
What is then [itex]f_x(x+y) = ?[/itex]

It is the chain rule. If you have ##z=f(x-y)## let ##u = x-y## so ##z=f(u)##. Your chain rule for is$$
z_x = z_u u_x,\ z_y = f_u u_y$$and since f depends on only one variable u, you would write ##f_u = f'(u)## and you multiply by the ##u_x## or ##u_y## accordingly.
 

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