Finding the Particular Solution for a Second-Order Differential Equation

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The discussion revolves around finding the particular solution for a second-order differential equation involving derivatives of a function y with respect to x. The problem includes initial conditions and a specific form for y.

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  • Participants discuss differentiating a given equation and substituting derivatives into the original differential equation. There are questions about the correctness of derivatives and the necessity of finding both first and second derivatives. Some participants also explore the implications of the initial conditions on the constants involved.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct differentiation and substitution process. Some participants have provided feedback on potential errors in the differentiation, while others clarify the requirements for solving for the constants. The conversation reflects a mix of attempts to verify the solution and understand the problem's requirements.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is a focus on ensuring that the derived function meets both the differential equation and the initial conditions provided.

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Homework Statement


x^2y\frac{d^2y}{dx^2} + (x\frac{dy}{dx} - y)^2 = 0

y^2=C_{1}x^2+C_{2}x

y=2;y'=1 when x=1

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Can someone give me the answer? Just the answer, the particular solution. Please? I'm having really hard time calculating for it. This is one of the seatworks given to us, and this is the remaining problem that I cannot answer.

The Attempt at a Solution


differentiating the second equation
y'=\frac{2C_{1}x+C_{2}}{2y}
y''=\frac{4C_{1}y-2C_{1}^2x^2+C_{2}^2+3C_{1}C_{2}x}{4y^2}
I'm stuck right there. I substituted the y' and y'' to the first equation but the answer seems not equal to zero. Is my differentiation right?
 
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The numerator of the first derivative isn't correct. Perhaps a typo? The second derivative looks wrong too.

Is the point of the problem to just find the constants c1 and c2? If so, you only need to calculate the first derivative.
 
I see, I forgot to place the x right after the C1? Is that what you're talking about? :biggrin: Fixed for you. :smile:

Why first derivative only? The problem (first equation) requires for the 2nd derivative, which makes it really hard (In my part).
 
If you're only solving for the constants, you do that using the two equations y'(1)=1 and y(1)=2. You only need the expressions for y(x) and y'(x) to write down those two equations.

If you're also supposed to verify that y(x) is indeed a solution to the differential equation, you will need y''(x).
 
I see. I substituted the values y'=1; y=2 when x=1, and this is what I got.

C_{1}=0

C_{2}=4

Then, the particular solution should be:
y=2\sqrt{x}

Am I correct?
 
Yes, that function satisfies the differential equation and the initial conditions.
 
Never thought that would be as easy as that. @_@

Thank you!
 

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