Finding the Polar Form of a Complex Number Using Euler's Relation

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The discussion revolves around expressing a complex number in polar form using Euler's relation. The original poster seeks to prove that any complex number can be represented as \( z = re^{i\theta} \), where \( r \) and \( \theta \) are real numbers, and to understand the significance of these parameters in the context of the complex plane. Additionally, they are trying to convert the specific complex number \( z = 3 + 4i \) into polar form.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between Cartesian and polar coordinates, questioning how to derive \( r \) and \( \theta \) from the given complex number. There are attempts to apply trigonometric identities and Pythagorean theorem to find these values. Some express confusion about the process and seek clarification on the proof and the conversion steps.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights on deriving \( r \) and \( \theta \) from the equations relating Cartesian and polar coordinates. Some guidance has been provided on using Pythagorean theorem to find \( r \), while others are still exploring how to determine \( \theta \). There is a collaborative atmosphere as participants help each other understand the concepts.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can provide. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding and the steps needed to complete the problem, indicating a need for further clarification on the proof and conversion process.

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Homework Statement


Using Euler's relation, prove that any complex number z=x+yi can be written in the form z= re^{i\theta} where r and \theta are real. Describe the significance of r and \theta with reference to the complex plane.

b) Write z= 3+4i in the form z = re^{i\theta}
(pretty sure I can get this one if I can get help on the proof.

Homework Equations



e^{i\theta}= cos\theta+isin\theta

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to prove it, got what it wanted me to get but I feel like I did it wrong because I don't know how to go about doing part b. there's also a part c but I didn't feel the need to put it up here because if someone can just explain to me the proof for these equations I think I should be able to get parts b and c
 
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How do cartesian coordinates relate to polar coordinates?
 
x = rcos\theta
y = rsin\theta

...is that all you have to do?

so that makes sense, but I guess I was wrong about knowing how to do part b then... I don't know how to find r and \theta given z = 3+4i
 
yes
So you have your two equations
x=r\ Cos( \theta)
y=r\ Sin( \theta)

How would you find r in terms of x and y?
 
r = \frac{x}{cos\theta}

r = i\frac{y}{sin\theta} ??
 
aaj92 said:
r = \frac{x}{cos\theta}

r = i\frac{y}{sin\theta}


??

nono, r in terms of x and y does not contain any mention of \theta

Make use of the fact that Cos( \theta)^2 + Sin( \theta)^2 = 1.
You should end up with pythagoras' theorem.

To find \theta, you can make use of \frac{ Sin(\theta)}{Cos( \theta)} = Tan(\theta )
 
ok well I'm lost :/

can't i just take the fact that x = rcos\theta and y= rsin\theta and plug that into z = x +iy? because that'll give the desired results right?
 
oh... then i still don't know how to get part b. k well I'll have to figure the whole Pythagorean theorem thing out then
 
aaj92 said:
ok well I'm lost :/

can't i just take the fact that x = rcos\theta and y= rsin\theta and plug that into z = x +iy? because that'll give the desired results right?

You can but that isn't going to help you find r and \theta
I'll show you how to find r, then I'll let you try and find \theta

1. I'm going to square both of our equations to get

x^2 = r^2 \ Cos(\theta )^2
y^2 = r^2 \ Sin(\theta )^2

2. Next I'm going to add these equations together

x^2 + y^2 = r^2 \ Cos(\theta )^2 + r^2 \ Sin(\theta )^2

3. I'm going to pull out a common factor of r^2

x^2 + y^2 = r^2 \ (Cos( \theta )^2 + Sin( \theta)^2 )

4. I now use the fact that Cos( \theta )^2 + Sin( \theta )^2 = 1 to find

x^2 + y^2 = r^2

5. Taking the square root of both sides

\sqrt{x^2 + y^2} = r

Which as I said before gives us pythagoras' theorem


So in b) you have z = 3 + 4i, we can now find the corresponding r, r = \sqrt{3^2 + 4^2} = \sqrt{25} = 5

All that's left now is to find \theta
 
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oh my god! thank you! I didn't know you could just add them together sorry my brain is just refusing to work right now but yeah I see how you can get theta now. thank you so much :)
 
  • #11
No problem buddy!
 

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