Finding the Radius of Convergence for a Series with a Real Coefficient

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The discussion revolves around finding the radius of convergence for a series defined by a real coefficient α, specifically in the context of the series $$f(z)=1+\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\alpha(\alpha-1)...(\alpha-n+1)\frac{z^n}{n!}$$. Participants are exploring the implications of α being a positive real number versus a positive integer on the convergence of the series.

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  • Participants discuss the use of the ratio test to determine the radius of convergence and question the conditions under which the series terminates. There is confusion regarding whether α should be a positive integer or a positive real number, and how this distinction affects the series' behavior.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of real numbers versus integers, while others are exploring the implications of different values of α on the series' convergence. The conversation reflects a productive examination of the definitions and their consequences, though no consensus has been reached regarding the application of the ratio test in all cases.

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There is an ongoing debate about the correct interpretation of the conditions under which the series converges, particularly concerning the nature of α. Participants are considering the implications of α being a positive integer versus a positive real number, and how this affects the radius of convergence.

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Hello.

How do I find the radius of convergence for this problem?
##\alpha## is a real number that is not 0.

$$f(z)=1+\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\alpha(\alpha-1)...(\alpha-n+1)\frac{z^n}{n!}$$

I understand that we can use the ratio test to find R. And by using ratio test, I got R=1. But in the answer, it also says that if α is a positive real number, then this series terminates.
==> The radius of convergence is ∞.

I don't understand this part. I hope someone could explain it to me.
 
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MissP.25_5 said:
Hello.

How do I find the radius of convergence for this problem?
$\alpha$ is a real number that is not 0.

$$f(z)=1+\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\alpha(\alpha-1)...(\alpha-n+1)\frac{z^n}{n!}$$

I understand that we can use the ratio test to find R. And by using ratio test, I got R=1. But in the answer, it also says that if α is a positive real number, then this series terminates.
==> The radius of convergence is ∞.

I don't understand this part. I hope someone could explain it to me.
Are you sure it didn't say "if α is a positive integer, then this series terminates" ?
 
SammyS said:
Are you sure it didn't say "if α is a positive integer, then this series terminates" ?


Aren't real number and integer the same thing? But yes, it is written real number. Perhaps the answer is wrong.
 
MissP.25_5 said:
Aren't real number and integer the same thing? But yes, it is written real number. Perhaps the answer is wrong.

No, a real number can be positive or negative, rational or irrational. The numbers ##\sqrt{2}, \pi##, etc. are all real but are not integers--in fact, they are not even rational.
 
Ray Vickson said:
No, a real number can be positive or negative, rational or irrational. The numbers ##\sqrt{2}, \pi##, etc. are all real but are not integers--in fact, they are not even rational.

So, if it is written integers, what would that mean for the radius?
 
If α is a positive integer, the ratio test doesn't apply because the series isn't infinite.

Consider the example α = 4. The coefficient of z^5 would be

4(4 - 1)(4 - 2)(4 - 3)(4 - 4)/5! = 0

Every coefficient after that would also be zero. So, does that mean the ratio test can only be used when α is a NEGATIVE INTEGER? What happens to the radius of convergence when alpha is a positive integer?
 
As you have found, the series converges for every positive integer α; it is then equivalent to a polynomial in z of degree α. Since polynomials are defined for every value of z, we may say that the radius of convergence is infinite in each of these cases, since there is no finite radius beyond which the value of a polynomial is undefined.
Note that each series in this case is still infinite: it merely contains an infinite list of additive zeroes after a particular term. We are not barred from using the ratio test: it simply does not have any applicable information to give us due to the fact that the ratio is undefined as n approaches infinity.
 
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