Finding the Second Derivative of a Function with Two Variables

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The discussion revolves around finding the second derivative of a function with two variables, utilizing the quotient rule for differentiation. Participants are exploring the process of deriving a function that involves both x and y variables.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the quotient rule and the treatment of one variable as a constant while differentiating. Questions arise regarding the transition from the first derivative to the second derivative, with some expressing uncertainty about potential arithmetic errors in their calculations.

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There is ongoing exploration of the differentiation process, with some participants providing guidance on the principles involved. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being considered, particularly regarding the focus on partial derivatives.

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Some participants mention the use of LaTeX for clarity in mathematical expressions, indicating a shared interest in improving the readability of the discussion. There is also a note of uncertainty regarding the arithmetic involved in the calculations.

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Homework Statement
find first and second partial derivative of z= tan (x^2*y^2)
Relevant Equations
tan (x^2*y^2)= sin(x^2*y^2)/cos(x^2*y^2)
Quotient rule: z= f/g ------ z'= (f'g - g'f)/g^2
starting with finding the derivative in respect to x, i treated y^2 as constant 'a': z'= [(a*2x*cos a*x^2)(sin a*x^2) - (- a*2x*sin ax^2)]/cos(a*x^2)^2=
[(a*2x*cos a*x^2)(sin a*x^2)+(a*2x*sin ax^2)]/cos(a*x^2)^2
For the derivative in respect to y it would be the same process, how do i go from here to finding the second derivative?
 
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Maniac_XOX said:
Quotient rule: z= f/g ------ z'= (f'g - g'f)/g^2
starting with finding the derivative in respect to x, i treated y^2 as constant 'a': z'= [(a*2x*cos a*x^2)(sin a*x^2) - (- a*2x*sin ax^2)]/cos(a*x^2)^2=
[(a*2x*cos a*x^2)(sin a*x^2)+(a*2x*sin ax^2)]/cos(a*x^2)^2
For the derivative in respect to y it would be the same process, how do i go from here to finding the second derivative?

Well, you take the first derivative, and you have a new function of ##x## and ##y##. What's the difficulty in taking a derivative of that? The second derivative uses the same principles as the first derivative.
 
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In your case, I think you're not looking for the mixed partia derivatives, so go with the 1st and 4th formulas.
Source : https://www.khanacademy.org/math/mu...radient-articles/a/second-partial-derivatives
 
stevendaryl said:
Well, you take the first derivative, and you have a new function of ##x## and ##y##. What's the difficulty in taking a derivative of that? The second derivative uses the same principles as the first derivative.
You're right i was just unsure of the result I would get cos there is a lot of working out and wanted to be sure I made no arithmetic errors. I guess I just need to post the final answer and ask wether there are arithmetic errors. Thank you for your opinon x
 

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