Finding the speed of the block for one and two springs

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The discussion focuses on determining the speed of a block launched by one or two identical springs compressed by the same length Δx. The potential energy stored in the springs is given by the equation Esp = ½ k ⋅ Δx². With two springs, the potential energy doubles, leading to the conclusion that the kinetic energy is also doubled. However, the final speed of the block remains the same in both scenarios, as derived from the equation v = √[(k ⋅ Δx²)/m], confirming that the speed does not simply double.

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  • Understanding of spring potential energy (Esp = ½ k ⋅ Δx²)
  • Knowledge of kinetic energy equations (K = ½ mv²)
  • Familiarity with energy conservation principles (Ui = Kf)
  • Basic algebra for manipulating equations
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Homework Statement


The spring in the figure (Figure 1) is compressed by length Δx. It launches the block across a frictionless surface with speed v0. The two springs in the figure (Figure 2) are identical to the spring of figure 1. They are compressed by the same length Δx and used to launch the same block. What is the block's speed now (for figure 2)?

Figure 1:
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Figure 2:
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Homework Equations


Ui = Kf
Esp = ½ k ⋅ Δx2
Esp = K = ½ mv2
(as it launches off)

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how having double the spring would affect the block's speed. I assumed it would increase (double) the spring potential energy because two of the same spring from Figure 1 are present for the situation in Figure 2. Would the speed for Figure 2, then, be simply 2V0?

v/v0 is also in front of the answer box, and I am not sure why.

Any help would be much appreciated!
 

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Is the potential energy doubled?
Is the kinetic energy doubled?
If the answer to both questions above is "yes", is the speed doubled?

Write a few equations down.
 
Hello
miyayeah said:

The Attempt at a Solution


I am not sure how having double the spring would affect the block's speed. I assumed it would increase (double) the spring potential energy because two of the same spring from Figure 1 are present for the situation in Figure 2.
Yes, that's right.

Would the speed for Figure 2, then, be simply 2V0?
Why would that be? Hint: Think about how the final kinetic energies of the two cases compare.

v/v0 is also in front of the answer box, and I am not sure why.
Maybe they are asking you to give the ratio of the velocity with two springs to the velocity with one spring. So, the answer will just be a number with no units.
 
kuruman said:
Is the potential energy doubled?
Is the kinetic energy doubled?
If the answer to both questions above is "yes", is the speed doubled?

Write a few equations down.
TSny said:
Hello
Yes, that's right.

Why would that be? Hint: Think about how the final kinetic energies of the two cases compare.

Maybe they are asking you to give the ratio of the velocity with two springs to the velocity with one spring. So, the answer will just be a number with no units.

½ k ⋅ Δx2 = ½ mv2

When potential energy is doubled, k ⋅ Δx2 = mv2, so
v= √[(k ⋅ Δx2)/m]

This is the same velocity as when there is only one spring. So would the speed for both situation be the same?
 
U1=K1
U2=K2
You have U2=2U1 because you have two springs compressed by the same amount Δx. OK so far.
Now an expression for K1 is ½mv12. What do you think should be an analogous expression for K2?
 
kuruman said:
U1=K1
U2=K2
You have U2=2U1 because you have two springs compressed by the same amount Δx. OK so far.
Now an expression for K1 is ½mv12. What do you think should be an analogous expression for K2?

That helped a lot, I realized I have to use some kind of formula for that relationship between the two situations. I was able to get the answer to the question.
Thank you!
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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