Finding the speed with kinetic friction

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The discussion focuses on calculating the speed required to push a 2.1 kg box of nails down a roof pitched at 20 degrees, considering a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.51. The normal force is calculated as 19.34 N, leading to a kinetic friction force of 9.86 N. The acceleration down the slope is determined to be 8.047 m/s². The final velocity needed for the box to come to rest at the edge of the roof is calculated using the equation V² = 2*a*x, confirming the approach is valid.

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Homework Statement


You and your friend Peter are putting new shingles on a roof pitched at 20degrees . You're sitting on the very top of the roof when Peter, who is at the edge of the roof directly below you, 5.4 m away, asks you for the box of nails. Rather than carry the 2.1 kg box of nails down to Peter, you decide to give the box a push and have it slide down to him.

If the coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the roof is 0.51, with what speed should you push the box to have it gently come to rest right at the edge of the roof?

Homework Equations


normal force up y-axis
mg down y-axis
angle left of -y
friction positive x
not 100% sure if these are right

n-mg*cos O=may
fk+mg(sin O)=max
vf=vi+at
xf=xi+vi*t+.5at^2

The Attempt at a Solution


first get normal force which solve for 1st equ.
n=2.1(9.8)cos20=19.34
then find kinetic friction
19.34*.51=9.86
put into next equation
9.86+2.1(9.8)sin20=2.1*a
a=8.047

plug into kinematic equ.
5.4=0+0*t+.5(8.047)t^2
t=1.15
vf=8.047*1.15
vf=9.3

obviously not right cause I am not sure about the free-body diagram any help would be fantastic.
 
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What will the acceleration (deceleration) be?

It will be the gravity component down the slope less the frictional slowing = g*sinθ - μ*g*cosθ = a

Since the final velocity is 0, now you can simply use the V2 = 2*a*x
 
thank you my friend...that was much easier then I thought it was.
 
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