# Finding the units (number theory)

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## Homework Statement

Prove that the ring R of polynomials with real coefficients (i.e. f(x) = a0 + a1x + ... + anxn, ai real, are elements of R) has only the constant term a0 as the group of units, providing the constant term isn't zero.

## Homework Equations

u is a unit if there exists a v such that uv=1

## The Attempt at a Solution

Clearly all the constant terms are units of the ring as we are dealing with the real numbers.

Claim: There are more than just these, and that a polynomial f(x) = a0 + a1x + ... + anxn is invertible.

=> there must exist a g(x) = b0 + b1x + ... + bnxn

such that f(x).g(x) = 1

f(x).g(x) = b0(a0 + a1x + ...) + b1x(a0 + a1x + ...) + b2x2(a0 + a1x + ...) + ... = 1

Not too sure where to go from here.. Sorry if my notation is a little off but hopefully you can understand

Thanks

JSuarez
R[x] is the ring of polynomials over a field: R. In this case, what is the degree of the product of two polynomials? What must be the degree of a unit?

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If f(x) and g(x) aren't constants, then each one has a highest degree term with a coefficient that's nonzero, right? What's the coefficient of the highest degree term of f(x)*g(x)?

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R[x] is the ring of polynomials over a field: R. In this case, what is the degree of the product of two polynomials? What must be the degree of a unit?

If f has degree n and g has degree m then the degree of the product is n+m which must be greater than or equal to 2, but the the degree of 1 is 0.

Surely some polynomial can equal 1 though can't it?

If f(x) and g(x) aren't constants, then each one has a highest degree term with a coefficient that's nonzero, right? What's the coefficient of the highest degree term of f(x)*g(x)?

coefficient anbm, not too sure how this helps though

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If an*bm is not zero, then f(x)*g(x) contains a term of the form an*bm*x^(n+m) and that's the only term of that degree. So the product is probably not 1.

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But if these are real coefficients then maybe they're small enough so we can choose an x such that the product is equal to 1?

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"1" has coefficient 0 for all powers of x greater than 0. Not "close to zero". Zero. I'm having a hard time picturing what you are thinking about here. The reals don't have any zero divisors.

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But if these are real coefficients then maybe they're small enough so we can choose an x such that the product is equal to 1?

"x" isn't a number. It's a symbol. This question isn't about roots of a polynomial. Is that what you are thinking?

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"x" isn't a number. It's a symbol. This question isn't about roots of a polynomial. Is that what you are thinking?

ye i was thinking that, guess that's why I'm having a hard time understanding

I can just go by the degrees of 1 and the product of the polynomials are different then as above?

Thanks