Finding the velocity and angle after an elastic collision

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The problem involves an elastic collision scenario between two penguins, Jerry and Mary, who are running towards each other and then sliding together after they meet. The objective is to find their final velocity and angle after the collision, using principles of momentum conservation.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations of initial momentum in both x and y directions, questioning the accuracy of the vector summation and the final velocity derived from momentum conservation.

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Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the calculations and have suggested re-evaluating the vector summation method. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made regarding the angle measurement and the components of momentum.

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Participants are working with specific values for mass and velocity, and there is a mention of a discrepancy in the calculated final momentum. The discussion includes a reference to the need for careful vector addition when dealing with momentum components.

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Homework Statement



Jerry and Mary, a young penguin couple, got separated because of an arctic storm. The storm is over and they start looking for each other. Jerry sees Mary first and he starts running on his little legs towards her. Then Mary sees Jerry and starts running as fast as she can toward him. There is ice all over so they end up sliding towards each other. Their precise directions are shown at the figure. When they meet they hug each other so tight that they keep sliding TOGETHER in a new direction, (COUNTERCLOCKWISE from the EAST), with a new speed, . What is and of the young penguin couple?



Pix = initial momentum of the system in the x direction
piy = initial momentum of the system in the y direction
mj = mass of Jerry
mm = mass of Mary
Pfx = final momentum of the system in the x direction
pfy = final momentum of the system in the y direction
vf = final velocity of the system
θf = final angle of the system
vj = velocity of Jerry
vm = velocity of Mary

Data:

ψj = 15°
ψ = 10°

mj = 5kg
mm = 3kg

vj = 1.2 m/s
vm = 0.5 m/s

Answer choices:
A) =0.6m/s,θf = 287 CCW from the East.
B) =1.1m/s, θf= 287 CCW from the East.
C) =0.6m/s,θf = 163 CCW from the East.
D) =1.1m/s,θf = 163 CCW from the East.
E) =0.6m/s,θf = 253 CCW from the East.
F) =1.1m/s,θf = 253 CCW from the East


Homework Equations


P =mv

Conservation of momentum


The Attempt at a Solution



Pix in the x-direction= 5*1.2*sin(15) -2*0.5*sin(10)
= 1.29244 kgm/s

piy = 5*1.2*cos(15) - 3*0.5*cos(10)
= 4.31834 kgm/s

Initial velocity of the system = 5.61078 kgm/s

Initial momentum = final momentum

5.16 kgm/s = (5kg+3kg)Vf

Vf = 0.7 m/s

Did I make a mistake in my calculations? Is the 0.1 discrepancy due to a rounding difference?

Then for the final angle:
θf = arctan(4.31/1.29)
= 73°

Do I assume that the angle starts from the positive x-axis and moves clockwise? So I would get:
360° - 73° = 287°
 

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I haven't checked all your working but shouldn't that be 3*0.5*sin(10) in...

Pix in the x-direction= 5*1.2*sin(15) -2*0.5*sin(10)

EDIT. Ah it looks like you used 3 to get 1.29244 so that's not the problem.
 
Are you summing the vectors Pix and Piy correctly? (That's a hint not a question)
 
I thought I had summed them correctly. I can see that I made a typo with
5.16 kgm/s = (5kg+3kg)Vf

which should be

5.61 kgm/s = (5kg+3kg)Vf

But the answer is still 0.7.
 

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