Finding the Velocity of a BB on a Magnetic Linear Accelerator

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Discussion Overview

The discussion focuses on methods to measure the velocity of a ball bearing accelerated by a magnetic linear accelerator. Participants explore various technologies and approaches for measuring speed, particularly while the ball bearing is still on the track.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a slow motion camera but notes challenges with frame size and focus due to the length of the accelerator.
  • Another participant proposes using a chronograph, specifically one designed for sub-sonic projectiles, as a potential solution for measuring velocity.
  • A later reply discusses the possibility of using closely-spaced photointerrupter devices to measure the speed of the ball bearing as it passes, suggesting the use of a digital oscilloscope for capturing time intervals.
  • Another approach mentioned involves using a pendulum to measure the kinetic energy of the ball bearing by embedding it in the pendulum and calculating the velocity from the potential energy change.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various methods for measuring velocity, but there is no consensus on a single best approach. Multiple competing views and techniques remain under consideration.

Contextual Notes

Some methods discussed may depend on specific geometries of the track or require additional equipment, and the effectiveness of each method may vary based on the setup.

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As is in the title, I am looking for a better way to measure the velocity of a ball bearing (actually only looking for speed) that has been accelerated by a magnetic.

If you don't know what a Magnetic Linear Accelerator is, then this link/video should help:


I already have some success with a slow motion camera, but my Accelerator is around 9 feet long, so keeping the all of it in the frame is very tough while also keeping the distance markers in focus.

Any ideas on what technology I could use?
 
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Projectile velocities are usually measured with a chrongraph for ballistic data. Midway has one that works on sub-sonic projectiles for less than $US70. In the US: Gun shops that specialize in reloading supplies handle various kinds of chronographs.

You can also google for 'how to build a chronograph'.
 
Thanks. I was looking into that option.

The only issue that I also want to measure the velocity of the BB while its still on the track.
 
Zystrophys said:
As is in the title, I am looking for a better way to measure the velocity of a ball bearing (actually only looking for speed) that has been accelerated by a magnetic.

If you don't know what a Magnetic Linear Accelerator is, then this link/video should help:


I already have some success with a slow motion camera, but my Accelerator is around 9 feet long, so keeping the all of it in the frame is very tough while also keeping the distance markers in focus.

Any ideas on what technology I could use?


Zystrophys said:
Thanks. I was looking into that option.

The only issue that I also want to measure the velocity of the BB while its still on the track.

Welcome to the PF.

Depending on the geometry of the track for the BB, you may be able to use a closely-spaced pair of photointerrupter devices to measure the speed of the passing BB. You can use something as simple as a digital oscilloscope to capture the delta-time between the closely spaced interruptors (say 1cm apart), and calculate the speed from that. Or you could build a larger circuit that measures the speed at several places along the track, using pairs of photointerrupters at each location.

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An alternative would be with a pendulum. The BB embeds itself in the pendulum which swings up and pushes a marker that stays where it is pushed. Knowing the mass of the ball, pendulum and dimensions you can calculate the kinetic energy of the BB by measuring the potential energy of the pendulum with ball. Convert the height change of the pendulum to PE = KE of ball, then to BB velocity.
 

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