Finding upper and lower limits of a graph

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To find upper and lower limits that enclose 80% of data points in a quantity vs time graph, Chebyshev's Inequality can be applied. The calculation involves determining the number of standard deviations from the average, which is found to be the square root of 5. However, issues arise when this method results in a negative lower limit, which is not acceptable. The discussion highlights that while Chebyshev's Inequality generally works, it may not be suitable for all datasets, particularly those with specific characteristics. The importance of ensuring that the calculated limits remain valid and non-negative is emphasized.
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Homework Statement


This is not really a homework problem, but it looks like a rather easy problem that I can't quite figure out.

So I have a graph like shown in the attachment: a quantity vs time graph with some data points. I had no problem finding the average, but now I want to find both an upper and lower limits that would enclose 80% of the data points (so like what I have drawn in the graph). My question is: how can I do that using a simple program like Excel?


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I tried applying Chebycheff's Inequality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_deviation"

For 80% of the data points, I found the number of standard deviations from the average would be SquareRoot 5. So (SquareRoot 5 * Standard Deviation)/2 , and then add and subtract that from the average to find the limits.

The Attempt at a Solution


Chebycheff's Inequality worked for most graphs. However, for some graphs, I would get a negative value for the lower limit and that's not what I want to see.


Thanks for the help!
 

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Chebycheff's Inequality will give difference from the mean. Since here the mean is 80 I don't think you are in any danger of getting a negative lower limit!
 
HallsofIvy said:
Chebycheff's Inequality will give difference from the mean. Since here the mean is 80 I don't think you are in any danger of getting a negative lower limit!

well I just made up that graph. I can't show the data that I'm working with because it's confidential. Anyhow, there are graphs where if I apply the Chebycheff's Inequality, I get a negative value for the lower limit.
 

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